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Thread: Santa out. The Sustainability Pirate in.

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    Santa out. The Sustainability Pirate in.

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    The nuffies are at it again. Santa replaced by the Sustainability Pirate at a Melbourne Child Care Centre. Seriously, some people need to get off the Party Drugs!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7783077/Melbourne-childcare-centre-replaced-Santa-Sustainability-Pirate-stand-move.html


    "Piracy is an act of robbery or criminal violence by ship or boat-borne attackers upon another ship or a coastal area, typically with the goal of stealing cargo and other valuable items or properties. Those who engage in acts of piracy are called pirates."

    That's what's deemed a suitable replacement by the virtue signalers? Once again the minority dictating terms to the majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeLotta View Post
    The nuffies are at it again. Santa replaced by the Sustainability Pirate at a Melbourne Child Care Centre. Seriously, some people need to get off the Party Drugs!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7783077/Melbourne-childcare-centre-replaced-Santa-Sustainability-Pirate-stand-move.html


    "Piracy is an act of robbery or criminal violence by ship or boat-borne attackers upon another ship or a coastal area, typically with the goal of stealing cargo and other valuable items or properties. Those who engage in acts of piracy are called pirates."

    That's what's deemed a suitable replacement by the virtue signalers? Once again the minority dictating terms to the majority.
    Beggars belief, of course it had to be in hipster Melbourne, must be something in the water down there, or perhaps its genetic.
    Wonder if they realise just how ridiculous this makes them look, very strange people.
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    The saving grace is that they tend to congregate in select areas sparing the rest of us day to day contact with them.

    (Maybe one day they'll find a cure but I suspect most of them are also anti-vaxxers so it may be hard to administer)

    BTW, you'll know when you're entering one of their clusters by the crumpled fixies lying next to the bearded, horn-rimmed glass wearing, flannelette clad person spreadeagled on the road, next to a dented car which they couldn't stop quickly enough to avoid. Unfortunately, his spotty kids won't be able to visit him in hospital because they're probably still infectious.
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    Brilliant, the Daily Mail! Such a reliable source. They even managed to squeeze in the 'political correctness gone mad' quote.
    Wikipedia Bans Daily Mail As Unreliable Source

    How dare the child minding centre reject Santa, a Coca Cola invention who has nothing to do with Jesus. Do you also intend to complain about Captain Feathersword?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnaus View Post
    Do you also intend to complain about Captain Feathersword?
    Nah. He sums up for me what the Sustainability Pirate really represents with FeatherSword being a polite way of saying soft c**k. (male chook).
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    Invented by Coke! probably not https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/th...hat-refreshes/ regardless these modern day grinches simply want to remove the joy de vive from millions of kids in the world.
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    OK, Coke didn't invent Santa but it doesn't diminish my argument. Santa is a secular concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeLotta View Post
    The saving grace is that they tend to congregate in select areas sparing the rest of us day to day contact with them.

    (Maybe one day they'll find a cure but I suspect most of them are also anti-vaxxers so it may be hard to administer)

    BTW, you'll know when you're entering one of their clusters by the crumpled fixies lying next to the bearded, horn-rimmed glass wearing, flannelette clad person spreadeagled on the road, next to a dented car which they couldn't stop quickly enough to avoid. Unfortunately, his spotty kids won't be able to visit him in hospital because they're probably still infectious.
    Is that all? Come on, as you are bent on disparaging all of that community with the imagined worst examples, surely you could drum up a few more hate-fueled stereotypes.

    They speak well of you.

    Merry Christmas

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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnaus View Post
    OK, Coke didn't invent Santa but it doesn't diminish my argument. Santa is a secular concept.
    And enjoyed by millions worldwide. People always have the choice of not sharing in the enjoyment rather than spoiling it for the majority who share in the pleasure and have done so for a very long time. Excuse yourself and celebrate the Sustainability Pirate in private with the 1 or 2 others who may share your perspective. He poses no danger as he is a soft c**k after all. The only thing this Pirate steals is joy.

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    They speak well of you.
    No, they don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by flynnaus View Post
    Is that all? Come on, as you are bent on disparaging all of that community with the imagined worst examples, surely you could drum up a few more hate-fueled stereotypes.
    I learnt that by watching how the minorities present an argument. Take the extreme examples and push them as the norm. Difference is, I do it tongue in cheek rather than in a deluded frenzy.


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    Shhh... just between us, Father Christmas is fake, a lie, yes some parents lie to their children about the existance of a mythical person who gifts "good" kids pressies - sublime. As for only good children get a visit from Santa, what message does that send to poor children who cannot afford gifting? The original message of another pagan festival has been corrupted by Big Corp. Happy Holidays! and Happy Christmas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonar View Post
    As for only good children get a visit from Santa, what message does that send to poor children who cannot afford gifting?
    Maybe the Sustainability Pirate can give them the present of guilt for the damage their parents have done to the Environment by first having Children (more consumers for the world) and shock, horror, then also using disposable nappies while raising them?

    BTW The Smith Family and other charities do a great job of looking after many kids whose families can't afford to partake in the Christmas tradition of gift giving. Retailers have hijacked the spirit of Christmas by pushing the idea of extravagant gifts but many families stick with modest gifts as a way to acknowledge and remember people in their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnaus View Post
    OK, Coke didn't invent Santa but it doesn't diminish my argument. Santa is a secular concept.
    We obviously have a different understanding of the term secular.

    "Santa Claus, also known as Father Christmas, Saint Nicholas, Saint Nick, Kris Kringle, or simply Santa, is a legendary figure originating in Western Christian culture who is said to bring gifts to the homes of well-behaved children on the night of Christmas Eve (24 December) or during the early morning hours of Christmas Day (25 December).[1] The modern Santa Claus grew out of traditions surrounding the historical Saint Nicholas (a fourth-century Greek bishop and gift-giver of Myra), the British figure of Father Christmas, and the Dutch figure of Sinterklaas (himself also based on Saint Nicholas). Some maintain Santa Claus also absorbed elements of the Germanic god Wodan, who was associated with the pagan midwinter event of Yule and led the Wild Hunt, a ghostly procession through the sky."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

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    iím all in favour of replacing saint nick with saint greta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnaus View Post
    OK, Coke didn't invent Santa but it doesn't diminish my argument. Santa is a secular concept.
    Flynnaus, You keep digging a bigger hole for yourself.

    First of all you shoot the messenger (Daily Mail, 7News) as though you believe such a story couldn't possibly be true so it had to be an outright lie.

    Then you erroneously claim Saint Nicholas/Santa Claus/ Father Christmas is an invention of the coca cola company... What??

    Then you claim that while that wasn't the case Saint Nicholas/Santa Claus / Father Christmas is a secular figure. What??? Wrong again.

    I find it extraordinary how people rise to defend the indefensible each time a great tradition is turned on its head.

    Sustainability pirate? Bah humbug. What a freaking load of hot nonsense by deluded idiots who live in la la land.

    As CafeLotta said...virtue signalling by green left grinch greens.
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    I wasn't going to respond, but...
    Click on the link, and as well as Daily Mail you have 7 News with the story.

    Repeating a myth doesn't exculpate you.

    I don't feel as I really should be educating adults, but Saint
    Nicholas, Santa Claus, Father Christmas , Saint Nick....all one and the same.

    Santa Claus is a delightful, happy, Christmas tradition. Sustainability pirate is foisted hogwash.
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    Darn; I've just run out of pop-corn but maybe the discussion has run its course...

    Mal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Darn; I've just run out of pop-corn but maybe the discussion has run its course.
    Don't poke the grumpy's with a stick Mal.
    I was just about to suggest deep breaths or counting to a hundred (backwards from one thousand in thirteens)

    Sustainability Pirate story broke on 3AW a couple of days ago and it's going viral/worldwide because I'm pretty sure most people think it's ridiculous regardless of your views on Jesus/Santa/Christmas.

    3AW didn't name the school but it's since come out in other reports as "Kensington Community Children’s Co-operative in Melbourne".

    The community co-op (is that a kinder or childcare?!?!?) doesn't have a Christmas party, they have an end of year party and the pirate will be there.
    I'm okay with that, they don't have to have a Christmas party although all my kids had one at kinder and loved it.

    I find it interesting that a character known for theft, rape, pillage and murder is preferred to the fat bloke in a red suit though.
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    Okay, so I goggled and found out it's both kinder and childcare:

    "We offer education and care to children from 6 weeks to school age as well as Sessional and Integrated Kindergarten programs. We are a 140 place centre with 50 dedicated staff"


    6 weeks old? Sheeze.


    I retract my above comment about their "end of year party" they have it in their own calendar as:

    Children’s Christmas and End of Year Celebration Friday 13 December 4pm – 7pm

    https://kccc.org.au/calendar-of-events/


    ...so it's on now if anyone wants to go meet Sustainability Pirate, you only have a couple of hours to get there though.
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    For those that aren't aware, the reference to pirates has a long history in debates concerning organised religion. It came to prominence when the organisation that is now the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster published a chart showing a negative correlation between the number of pirates and the global average temperature and drew the obvious conclusion that global warming was caused by the decline in pirate numbers. This was intended as a jibe against the bad science that abounds in creationist circles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    I find it interesting that a character known for theft, rape, pillage and murder is preferred to the fat bloke in a red suit though.
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    also the idea of materially rewarding children for behaving a certain way only institutionalises entitlement from a young age.

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    I have a problem with impressionable children sitting on the laps of overly generous strangers.
    Besides, does anyone even know a kid who needs more toys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    ...so it's on now if anyone wants to go meet Sustainability Pirate, you only have a couple of hours to get there though.
    Apparently he went down really well.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Darn; I've just run out of pop-corn but maybe the discussion has run its course...


    Mal.
    Maybe now?
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    OK, one more.

    The compromise was staring them in the face all the time -


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    Clean, wind powered travel. No more methane emissions from the reindeer being spread worldwide.

    Captain Claus, the alternative Sustainable Environment ambassador that keeps the joy in Christmas. Add a crew and there's fun for everyone.


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    Good one CL...

    Seems to me that you are now on a roll.

    Mal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Good one CL...

    Seems to me that you are now on a roll.

    Mal.
    If only I could find a flatulent reindeer pic............

    Wait, what's that. Wouldn't you know it, someone's actually written a book...........

    dingle-the-flatulent-reindeer.jpg


    Maybe that's why Dingle didn't make that list...........


    Can you name all 10 Reindeer? No?


    There is Dasher (1), Dancer (2), Prancer (3), and Vixen (4). Comet (5), Cupid (6), Donner(7), and Blitzen(8). You can't forget Rudolf (9), He has a whole song about him. So the 10th reindeer must be Olive(10).


    You Don't remember Olive from the song? She was a huge jerk.


    You know... Olive the other reindeer, used to laugh and call him names.


    For all the Dad's and Grandad's with young kid's about, a great Dad joke for Christmas. You can wind them up for ages naming the Reindeer until you reveal Olive the other Reindeer from the "Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer" song.
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    Good one mate...

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