Results 1 to 33 of 33
Like Tree28Likes
  • 1 Post By Rocky
  • 3 Post By Javaphile
  • 1 Post By Dimal
  • 2 Post By Rocky
  • 2 Post By CoffeeHack
  • 2 Post By Andy
  • 1 Post By OCD
  • 2 Post By CoffeeHack
  • 1 Post By Rocky
  • 3 Post By Andy
  • 2 Post By Caffeinator
  • 2 Post By EspressoAdventurer
  • 1 Post By flynnaus
  • 2 Post By Rocky
  • 1 Post By EspressoAdventurer
  • 1 Post By Rocky
  • 1 Post By Rocky

Thread: The Formula One Thread

  1. #1
    Senior Member Rocky's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Central Queensland
    Posts
    1,199

    The Formula One Thread

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Is it possible we don't have a dedicated "Formula One" thread on here?
    I did a search (I'm a pretty useless searcher) and couldn't find anything.

    I was getting my 2020 F1 Diary ready the other day and after I'd finished, I thought "Hang on - will any of these GPs run (a) at all or (b) on the date scheduled."
    I'm guessing the Australian GP will happen on the 15th March, but China on the 19th April? Italy and Japan are late in the year.

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    SYD
    Posts
    610
    There's a massive F1 thread over at the Whirlpool boards if that's the kind of discussion you're seeking. I won't post a direct link as I think that's against site rules (or at least the spirit of them) but I figure most ppl are familiar with Whirlpool.

  3. #3
    Senior Member Rocky's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Central Queensland
    Posts
    1,199
    Thanks Herzog. Just introducing another discussion option here as most other Forums seem to have a standing F1 Thread.
    If no interest it will just pass on quietly.
    ANewbie likes this.

  4. #4
    Senior Member CoffeeHack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    135
    China's already been "postponed' (potentially indefinitely) I believe. Big question mark over Vietnam. The Italian F1 teams potentially requiring quarantine is the latest thing being discussed. Methinks there'll be some major disruption this year. I've also seen a headline that MotoGP may consider racing behind 'locked gates' this year to combat the risk!

  5. #5
    Super Moderator Javaphile's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Earth!
    Posts
    16,331
    Always a fun comparison.




    Java "Well under 2s now" phile
    Dimal, splashalot and CoffeeHack like this.
    Toys! I must have new toys!!!

  6. #6
    Senior Member CoffeeHack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    135
    A couple of years back I was watching a replay of the 2010 Monaco GP, and was thinking 'geez this is a slow pit stop, that'll compromise the race for sure' during a 5 to 6 second stop. The commentator said something like 'that was a quick stop', which put into perspective just how much quicker they have become over the last decade. it's an impressive workrate!

  7. #7
    Mal Dimal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Warwick, QLD
    Posts
    17,570
    Yep, the support crews are at least as well-tuned as the cars themselves...

    Mal.
    CoffeeHack likes this.

  8. #8
    Senior Member Rocky's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Central Queensland
    Posts
    1,199
    I've just started watching the very entertaining Netflix "Drive to Survive" series about F1 (starting with the 2018 Season).
    In the first couple of episodes one of the incidents involved the mis-attachment of a wheel in two successive pit-stops to (I think) Magnussen's car.
    It illustrated to me just how much pressure is on everybody in the Pit Crew in a 2-3 second pit stop.
    You wouldn't want to suffer from 'performance anxiety'.
    Dimal and CoffeeHack like this.

  9. #9
    Senior Member CoffeeHack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    135
    The level of R&D is out of control - I believe the teams use helium to run the air guns as it has superior qualities for changing wheels as fast as possible when compared to straight compressed air. Probably only worth a tenth of a second, but in this game that can mean a lot. The Netflix show is a great window into the sport, although it is a bit dramatised. The added-on sound effects during crashes annoys me a bit.

    I remember in Mark Webber's early days I thought he seemed to be a pretty boring bloke - it wasn't until he was on Top Gear (for the first time) that I saw his true personality for the first time. Turns out I had only previously seen him on Australian media where 99% of the time the people knew little to nothing about the sport and he must have just been sick of all the stupid questions. The Netflix show has been a good series delving into the soap opera aspect of the F1 circus. The new owners appear to be taking F1 in the right direction, if Bernie Ecclestone was still involved I reckon everyone would be talking about the death of F1 by now.
    Andy and Dimal like this.

  10. #10
    Member LauriG's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Cairns, FNQ
    Posts
    97
    If you have Netflix, don't miss the very last minute of the last episode, hyping up the 2021 season.

    Just wait for Kimi... :-)

  11. #11
    CoffeeSnobs Owner Andy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Internet
    Posts
    17,515
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    the very entertaining Netflix "Drive to Survive" series about F1
    A really excellent series. We watched season one last year and loved it and the behind the scenes footage really showed the politics and personalities that you don't get to see via the commentators during a race. Certainly explained why a lot of the driver shuffles happen.

    Have just finished season 2 and it's every bit as good and we still dislike the same people

    We are not really into F1, lost interest years ago when it was just a procession but certainly admire the engineering and now the cutting edge aero. Driving one of those at that lap pace, that close to the wall is insane lap after lap.

    DRS has certainly improved the racing allowing a shuffle in the order all the way through the pack and now with stricter spending limits maybe the field will bunch-up a little more. It's nearly watchable again

    Mercedes Dual Axis Steering (DAS) will be very interesting to see in a race and although it's been banned for 2021 they can use it this year. Changing the toe/camber in real time at that pace is certainly going to make the Merc guys busy, it also has the potential of changing the aero and could act like a mini version of DRS. I suspect when the drivers find the sweet spot it will make the Merc uncatchable.
    Dimal and CoffeeHack like this.

  12. #12
    OCD
    OCD is offline
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Ballarat
    Posts
    396
    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeHack View Post
    China's already been "postponed' (potentially indefinitely) I believe. Big question mark over Vietnam...
    Vietnam participating in Formula One? It wasn't that long ago we were over there killing these people. I marvel at their capacity to forgive.

    Ps maybe something to consider the next time we have an ideological disagreement with another country.
    CoffeeHack likes this.

  13. #13
    Senior Member CoffeeHack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    135
    Quote Originally Posted by OCD View Post
    Vietnam participating in Formula One? It wasn't that long ago we were over there killing these people. I marvel at their capacity to forgive.

    Ps maybe something to consider the next time we have an ideological disagreement with another country.
    It's Vietnam's debut on the calendar this year. Might be another flash in the pan event that comes & goes like (South) Korea & Turkey did, however as mentioned above I believe the new owners have a little more modern (and sustainable) business savvy compared to the previous maverick owner Bernie Ecclestone.

    F1 has a history of reaching across the wounds of war; its first season was 1950 with major participation between countries that were killing each other (and their own) en masse less than a decade earlier.
    Dimal and OCD like this.

  14. #14
    Senior Member Rocky's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Central Queensland
    Posts
    1,199
    There's a bit of info about the Hanoi Circuit on the F1 website. It is seemingly comprised of predominately street circuit with some added bits that are fixtures - possibly the start/finish/Pits areas.
    Bahrain is going to be a "participants only" race and China postponed (indefinitely). I guess more venues will make their intentions clear as they have time to get their heads around the circumstances.
    Hard to imagine it won't be chaos this year. Maybe a lot of 'participant only' races would be the practical option. What that does to the financial viability I don't know.
    CoffeeHack likes this.

  15. #15
    CoffeeSnobs Owner Andy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Internet
    Posts
    17,515
    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has stated that no fans will be allowed into Albert Park for the Formula 1 Rolex Australian Grand Prix if the event does indeed continue.


    While McLaren Racing has withdrawn from Round 1 of the Formula 1 World Championship, there is still no official word on whether F1 proceedings will take place in Melbourne.


    Gates were to have opened at 08:45 AEDT but that was delayed.


    “From a public health point of view, the event, if it is to be run – and I’ll leave it to Grand Prix officials, the Australian Formula 1 Grand Prix organising body to make an official announcement, I think that will happen quite soon – but on public health grounds, there will be no spectators at the grand prix this weekend if a race actually happens at all,” said Premier Andrews in a media conference a short time ago."

    --------

    Wow, let everyone fly into Melbourne, queue-up and then pull the pin with them standing at the gates? Poor form.
    Dimal, Javaphile and 338 like this.

  16. #16
    Senior Member Yelta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Moonta SA.
    Posts
    7,355
    Having traveled by road from Hanoi to Saigon, I would have thought there were far more important issues for Vietnam to address than running a motor race.

  17. #17
    Senior Member robusto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    3,095
    Melbourne Formula One has been cancelled.

  18. #18
    Mal Dimal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Warwick, QLD
    Posts
    17,570
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Wow, let everyone fly into Melbourne, queue-up and then pull the pin with them standing at the gates? Poor form.
    Yep, very poor indeed...
    With so many competing self interests, it's a shame that someone didn't step forward much earlier to avoid this sort thing happening. Indecision at its worst.

    Mal.

  19. #19
    Senior Member Bosco_Lever's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    QLD
    Posts
    452
    Indecision?

    I call it poor leadership, so typical of the majority of our politicians.

  20. #20
    Mal Dimal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Warwick, QLD
    Posts
    17,570
    I was trying to be polite B_L as there is no display of leadership whatsoever...

    Mal.

  21. #21
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    502
    F1 should have shown leadership in the first instance and called it before putting the whole circus on a plane.

    The state government should not have had to make the call. Regardless, it's outright greed at both ends of the court.
    Dimal and EspressoAdventurer like this.

  22. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    343
    Which is the exact same outcome when todays announcement regarding mass gatherings banned as from this Monday.
    Not tmrw Saturday the 14th March. Not from the day after Sunday the 15th of March.
    But next Monday 3 days time.


    Now I AM the biggest sports FAN breathing. full stop.
    But jeez the hollowness of this is ridiculous.

    Just ban any Game day Stadium crowd as of 12noon today Friday the 13th.

    And then suck it up and Refund any ticket purchases for this coming weekends NRL games.
    Oh no. State Govt owned Stadiums wouldn't have come into the shallowness of this hypocrisy ?

    AND NO there is no brand of politics involved in this statement. I have a very level balanced and equal amount of
    contempt for all sides!
    Dimal and Caffeinator like this.

  23. #23
    Senior Member flynnaus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    4,264
    Quote Originally Posted by EspressoAdventurer View Post
    Which is the exact same outcome when todays announcement regarding mass gatherings banned as from this Monday.
    Not tmrw Saturday the 14th March. Not from the day after Sunday the 15th of March.
    But next Monday 3 days time.
    Scotty from Marketing is a massive Cronulla Sharks fan and wanted to attend one more game before it is all shut down.
    This has given rise to a new hash tag #Scottygoestothefooty

    PS Apparently there is a Hillsong conference on this week which wraps up this weekend. It wouldn't have passed the "events with 500+ people" test
    Dimal likes this.

  24. #24
    Senior Member Rocky's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Central Queensland
    Posts
    1,199
    I would suggest the "500 participant" test is simply ridiculous. 20 maybe - if essential.
    Any leadership with any pretentions to competence would have banned any and all public gatherings at least a fortnight ago with a weeks grace for organisers to sort out their issues/arrangements as best they could.
    We have been able to see where this was all going for at least a month (as I said over a month ago) and the quality of government leadership (and example) has been abysmal.
    Dimal and Caffeinator like this.

  25. #25
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    343
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I would suggest the "500 participant" test is simply ridiculous. 20 maybe - if essential.
    Any leadership with any pretentions to competence would have banned any and all public gatherings at least a fortnight ago with a weeks grace for organisers to sort out their issues/arrangements as best they could.
    We have been able to see where this was all going for at least a month (as I said over a month ago) and the quality of government leadership (and example) has been abysmal.
    Exckakery! Authorities should have paid far more attention and scrutiny to all people coming into our country from the time they set up travel bans. Goodness gracious even a Minister travelled back in freely no questions asked.
    Fair dinkum sometimes you'd luv to run across the Ole Sarge with the 12 1/2 EE size shoe leather and say hey got a minute !

    Even now this country is still probably the only one currently allowing sporting events to be attended .

  26. #26
    Senior Member simonsk8r's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Geelong
    Posts
    1,219
    Was just in Melbourne today, and even though the F1 was cancelled they still had heaps of F1 merch stands around at Federation Square. I think they still got a few sales here and there

  27. #27
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    343
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has stated that no fans will be allowed into Albert Park for the Formula 1 Rolex Australian Grand Prix if the event does indeed continue.


    While McLaren Racing has withdrawn from Round 1 of the Formula 1 World Championship, there is still no official word on whether F1 proceedings will take place in Melbourne.


    Gates were to have opened at 08:45 AEDT but that was delayed.


    “From a public health point of view, the event, if it is to be run – and I’ll leave it to Grand Prix officials, the Australian Formula 1 Grand Prix organising body to make an official announcement, I think that will happen quite soon – but on public health grounds, there will be no spectators at the grand prix this weekend if a race actually happens at all,” said Premier Andrews in a media conference a short time ago."

    --------

    Wow, let everyone fly into Melbourne, queue-up and then pull the pin with them standing at the gates? Poor form.
    Indeed Andy !
    Ive now heard for the second time publicly that Vettel and Raikkonen both flew out of Melb (independently) during the course of Thurs Evening or early Fri morning !

    So what ....was the debate about Friday morning around 8.30 am Friday !
    The delayed announcement?
    What a charade ! It was never going ahead as of Thursday evening.

    Maybe the business that now owns the running of these events worldwide, the F1 Group and
    its CEO Mr Carey should look past their own needs and place the health of all as a priority.
    Dimal likes this.

  28. #28
    Senior Member Rocky's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Central Queensland
    Posts
    1,199
    I see from the F1.com website that they are hosting "F1 esport Virtual GPs"
    These involve a 'field' of personalities - some drivers, some celebrities, participating in a mock GP using an F1 computer game.
    Competitors for the "Bahrain Virtual GP" are people like Johnny Herbert, Anthony Davidson, Lando Norris, Esteban Gutierrez, Nico Hulkenberg, Jimmy Broadbent, Philipp Eng, Nic Hamilton, Stoffel Vandoorne, Nicholas Latifi, Luca Salvadori, Ian Poulter, Sir Chris Hoy etc.
    Some of the competitors have experience with the computer game, others not much.
    It is really just a bit of fun and not meant to be any sort of 'substitute' for a real GP.
    I plan to give it a look.
    Dimal likes this.

  29. #29
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    fairly static
    Posts
    215
    Ironic, that just two weeks ago Rocky asked the question about the season while expecting Melbourne to go ahead. Events have moved for us, one might say. Germany is now down to meetings of no more than two people. In the last 24 hours I have twice had people to whom I needed to talk (one wrongly at my door, one a tradie doing some work for us) moving forward as I moved backwards before I reminded them of personal distancing and we kept our two metres. Off the F1 topic there. I hope for some races later in the year. Monaco is gone entirely, others may be postponed.

  30. #30
    Senior Member Rocky's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Central Queensland
    Posts
    1,199
    Funny you should say that bs - I was thinking just that as I quickly scrolled down this page.
    How things have moved on in a short time. There's almost a sense of unreality about it all.
    The health impacts AND the dire financial/economic consequences that never crossed our minds in January.
    A guy on a US forum asked the question "How long do you think it will be for the US to get back to 'normal' post pandemic?".
    My thought is that the US will probably take a decade but I seriously doubt that the rest of us will be back to 'normal' in my lifetime - say 15-20 years (based on the fact that it is 12 years after the GFC and most countries economies were still in chaos). There will be so much government and corporate debt, so many companies that have disappeared (and their share value with them) so many private households that have been set-back a decade.

  31. #31
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Posts
    9
    Donald Trump wants things back to normal so that folk will be back in church for Easter Sunday. But then he has a lot (of money) riding on it. Worth reading Krugman in the Washington Post on this stuff.

  32. #32
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    fairly static
    Posts
    215
    Mr Trump has stakes in hotels and resorts. He does not want them hard hit. Commenters usually couch his enthusiasm for knocking off a couple of million Americans in terms of his potential re-election. He may also be at risk over covenants on borrowing related to some of those investments. Pardon my cynicism.

    edit: I apologise for progressing a thread derail. At this point, I have read of the season being reduced to eleven races.

  33. #33
    Senior Member Rocky's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Central Queensland
    Posts
    1,199
    I'll settle for 11 races to end the year and eat my words happily if it is all over by 1 July (but I have a bit of difficulty with that idea)
    Dimal likes this.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •