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    Overtaking Lane Rage

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    I noticed the trend a year or so ago on the Princess Highway between Traralgon and Bairnsdale where -- to the disgrace of this nation -- one of Australias main highways is undivided.

    Instead, frequent overtaking lanes....
    You drive along, stuck behind a slow car doing well under the 100KMH limit.

    But as soon as the overtaking lane appears, he plants the foot -- and if you want to overtake, you are forced to break the law and speed.

    When the overtaking lane finishes, the slow driver backs off to under 100 again.

    This happens with amazing regularity. Its as though the overtaking lane is an invitation for slow drivers to open up. The mere sight of the "overtaking lane ahead" sign gives them a rush of blood.


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    Re: Overtaking Lane Rage

    Totally agree with that one robusto.
    Why is it that drivers seem to see the overtake lane and treat it as a dragway or worse, when you have people driving together in convoy they sit beside each other to chat out the window.

    And dont get me started on the numbers of people who dont understand the concept of constant speed but rather choose to fluctuate from 80 to 110 and back again. Very frustrating especially on a windy road with few places to overtake. If they sat on 95 or 100 there would never be an issue.

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    Re: Overtaking Lane Rage

    Anyone that drives slower than me is an idiot and anyone that drives faster than me is a lunatic.

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    I feel your pain, Robusto.

    Recently, coming back from my weekend at Bathurst on the bike, I was behind a fairly long and spread out trail of traffic on the Newell hwy between Dubbo and Coonabarabran. There was the usual mix of cars and trucks, including a car towing a van. I have travelled this road a bit, so I kind of know when the overtaking lanes come along. I decided to take the opportunity to overtake most of the vehicles when safe so that I could get up behind the two lead vehicles who were ultimately holding us all up. I figured I was quick at getting around the traffic and once Id got out of the way it would give everyone else a better chance on the overtaking lanes.

    Well, the two lead vehicles were big tankers, bogeys as well. I was behind the second one by the time we got to the overtaking lane and by this stage, everyone else had caught us up as well.

    You wouldnt believe it but the second truck decided to overtake the first. At below 40km/hr up the hill. I swear, the second truck just sat out on the outside lane for most of the overtaking lane, not actually going faster than the first truck!

    You can only imagine my disbelief at their inconsiderate driving. It wasnt only me they held up but everyone else. They were identical trucks with same state number plates and so I figured they were travelling together.

    By the time the second truck pulled over, I was fuming! You can be sure I had the Duke wound up by the time I went past his cab and was glad to see his window was down, so that he could get both barrels of the noise of a Ducati reving out over 8 grand! >:(

    I got past no worries. It was everyone else that got held up and missed out! To me that was totally uncalled for and just plain ignorant.

    Most truckies out there are great. When they see you coming towards them on a bike they will move over to the verge as close as they can. I always give a wave of thanks for that. When you come up behind, some even flash their blinker when its safe to pass.

    But these two guys were just being rude...

    If Id been in a car, Id have taken their details. As it was, I flashed past them quickly and tried to forget their infuriating behaviour!

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    Re: Overtaking Lane Rage

    Scootagal, you really wonder about the psychology of some drivers when things like that happen. Rude? Inconsiderate? Dimwits? All the above?

    Bolb: Youd think that cruisecontrol would have eliminated that infuriating erratic behavior. I use it constantly -- except when the erratic *&%$# in front of me forces its abandonment.


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    Cruise control can be really great except on undulating roads where the setup is not as intelligent as it should be and the car thinks you still need to be accelerating at the top or going over the top of the hill.
    My wifes truckster (mazda tribute) as this problem but the Honda Type R has great cruise control that you can adjust km by km if required.

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    Re: Overtaking Lane Rage

    Never had that problem on my Fairlanes. Conrol is very sensitive to road conditions. Highway from Melbourne to Gippsland Lakes is fairly straight and flat in any case.

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    Its because of idiots like these that Ive really enjoyed having my new car. While not as fast as Scoots Duke theres few things on the road that have a chance of preventing it from quickly passing them. Gotta love the feel when 325 horses suddenly get kicked in da azz!! ::) ;D


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    Re: Overtaking Lane Rage

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1206954154/0#2 date=1206959977
    Anyone that drives slower than me is an idiot and anyone that drives faster than me is a lunatic.
    Nicely succinct TG ;)

    Behaviour? Its all relative on the road ... what I react to may differ to yours - hence the unfortunate reality that carnage is inevitable.

    Too many variables, unfortunately :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrindOnDemand link=1206954154/0#8 date=1206967269
    Behaviour? Its all relative on the road ... what I react to may differ to yours - hence the unfortunate reality that carnage is inevitable.

    Too many variables, unfortunately :(

    Tony
    Hence why we have road rules...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoota gal link=1206954154/0#3 date=1206960875
    Most truckies out there are great. When they see you coming towards them on a bike they will move over to the verge as close as they can. I always give a wave of thanks for that. When you come up behind, some even flash their blinker when its safe to pass.
    Id be carefull with that one scooter, allthough they probably like bike riders better, my parents were nearly killed by a truck driver doing that. He gave the signal to pass they pulled out and there was a car right there(100 zone) and dad ended up in the ditch on the opposite side of the road.

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    Re: Overtaking Lane Rage

    Quote Originally Posted by GrindOnDemand link=1206954154/0#8 date=1206967269
    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1206954154/0#2 date=1206959977
    Anyone that drives slower than me is an idiot and anyone that drives faster than me is a lunatic.
    Nicely succinct TG ;)
    Succinct? Moi?

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    Re: Overtaking Lane Rage

    While we are on the subject of inconsiderate road users - what about the idiots that seem to think that the indicators gives them right of way?

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    Or the blind ones that travel all the way to the end of the merging lane before trying to merge right.

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    Re: Overtaking Lane Rage

    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1206954154/0#0 date=1206954154
    You drive along, stuck behind a slow car doing well under the 100KMH limit.

    But as soon as the overtaking lane appears, he plants the foot -- and if you want to overtake, you are forced to break the law and speed.

    When the overtaking lane finishes, the slow driver backs off to under 100 again.
    Very common on Tassies midlands highway - speed limit 110. Ive topped 140 in an unsuccessful attempt to pass a car that was traveling at 80 for 10km before reaching the overtaking lane!

    No problem with people driving at an appropriate speed for the conditions, their car, their level of confidence etc, but speeding up in overtaking lanes is just stupid and selfish behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1206954154/0#13 date=1207021326
    Or the blind ones that travel all the way to the end of the merging lane before trying to merge right.
    And their close cousins, who tailgate you until the lanes merge and THEN decide to overtake, leaving you with the choice of (a) running into a ditch (b) sideswiping them (c) slamming on the brakes - 100 to zero in two seconds!

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    And then theres those people who drive blithely along and ignore that 500kg storm cover coming their way. ::) ;D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDfZdfeJ1nc


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    Re: Overtaking Lane Rage

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarg link=1206954154/0#10 date=1206999024
    Quote Originally Posted by scoota gal link=1206954154/0#3 date=1206960875
    Most truckies out there are great. When they see you coming towards them on a bike they will move over to the verge as close as they can. I always give a wave of thanks for that. When you come up behind, some even flash their blinker when its safe to pass.
    Id be carefull with that one scooter, allthough they probably like bike riders better, my parents were nearly killed by a truck driver doing that. He gave the signal to pass they pulled out and there was a car right there(100 zone) and dad ended up in the ditch on the opposite side of the road.
    Thanks Sarg, I am always careful about that one, I make sure I have a good look and assess for myself if its what Id call safe to go. Even though the bike is quick, its still a pretty long way past a b double or a road train and theyre pretty common out here! And Im especially wary of how much air a truck like that pushes in front of it as on a bike you are so much more susceptible to being buffetted around. Actually, its interesting to see just how far behind them a truck can disturb the air.

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    I sometimes sit behind a truck to take advantage of that.

    If you get past the disturbance you get into a sort of vacuum and get pulled along.
    Just like the racing cars do before they slip out to pass.

    Im happy sitting there on 100kph using less fuel.


    Disclaimer: Dont try this at home kiddies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1206954154/15#18 date=1207050030
    I sometimes sit behind a truck to take advantage of that.

    If you get past the disturbance you get into a sort of vacuum and get pulled along.
    Just like the racing cars do before they slip out to pass.

    Im happy sitting there on 100kph using less fuel.


    Disclaimer: Dont try this at home kiddies.
    I had the "pleasure" of a drive from Eltham to Yarra Glen yesterday. Roads were fine and so was visibility- a beautiful windless, sunny day. The speed limit variously posted at 60/80 as there are a few curves. So what to we get? A conga line of about 8 cars, bumper to bumper at no more than 60kmh- EVER.

    Did the car (daydreamer) up the front ever pull over to let us through? Nup ::). There are occasional short opportunities to overtake. Did #2 or #3 go past? Nup. Did any of 4-8 drop back a touch to create a gap? Nup.

    A pleasant drive ruined- and lets not talk about youre average Victorian driver in the same sentence as the word courtesy ;).

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    In there only little world.

    I pulled into a petrol station on Monday afternoon and the guy in front whod finished paying hopped back into his car, moved forward about 3 feet then decided to rummage around in the front for god knows what, oblivous to the fact that I was behind him and he was blocking all 4 pumps by not moving off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1206954154/15#18 date=1207050030
    I sometimes sit behind a truck to take advantage of that.

    If you get past the disturbance you get into a sort of vacuum and get pulled along.
    Just like the racing cars do before they slip out to pass.

    Im happy sitting there on 100kph using less fuel.


    Disclaimer: Dont try this at home kiddies.
    The fastest I ever went in my old Winnebago (think big box made from 1x2s and alum sheeting on wheels) was drafting a semi with the drivers permission and cooperation. Top end in the beasty on a flat road with no wind and the peddle all the way to the floor was less than 100kph. At that speed fuel consumption was about 2km per liter. Drafting behind the semi we were doing over 150kph and not only was I not giving it any gas, I was actually having to ride the brake to avoid being sucked into the back of the semis trailer! Gas mileage skyrocketed to over 10km per liter. The engine was at idle the whole time and at times the engine was in danger of overheating due to no air flow across the radiator. The only time I had to use any gas was when we hit a hill. Even drafting I couldnt stay in the pocket and the semi driver would slow way down and wait for me to catch up after the hill before speeding back up again.

    It was easily the fastest and scariest ride ever in the beastie!!


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    Re: Overtaking Lane Rage

    as the owner of a car that can normally quite happily keep to the speed limit on most of the back roads leading from Brisbane to the interesting bush places I would rather be but not have much more to safely overtake anyone that doesnt want to do the speed limit I feel this pain constantly, along with people similar to me that want to tailgate the slower car but not go round so there isnt the room to hop past one at a time

    one think I have found with those that speed up in the overtaking lanes, they probably are thinking you are crazy for wanting to go past them, or are too arrogant to think somebody should go faster than them so its best to sneak up on them

    sit back a few hundred metres until the overtaking lane comes up then you need to time your attack just right so you are on their rear right at the start of the lane, you zip round before they have a chance to trap you, works every time :)

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    Re: Overtaking Lane Rage

    With the 4 litre Falcon I dont have to sneak up, just put the pedal to the metal and zoom past.

    I cruise on the speed limit at about 2500 RPM.
    Idle is 800 and redline about 5500 IIRC.

    Opening up the throttle to overtake hits no more than about 3500 RPM. Still a walk in the park for this beast.
    Its no V8 but it still has grunt.

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