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    McDamn it ... a dilemma

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    Ive a bit of a moral dilemma thats been thrust upon me :-/ ...

    My 4yr old lads have been invited to their first birthday party - to be held at McDongits (thats how they pronounce it *:D).

    Now, their mother & I have [s]programmed[/s] taught them of the nutritional shortcomings of the stuff offered at this joint, & when they spot an ad or we pass one while driving they will without fail blurt out "yuk, makes you fat". *To which I reply, "thats right *[s]monkey-boys[/s] lads" ;).

    So, you can see my crisis. *Forbid them from going & risk them being ostracized & taunted at kindy as outsiders, rendering considerable mental scarring that will require years of psychiatric treatment?

    Or, let them go, & risk having their receptive minds subjected to McDongits cunning & manipulative marketing that will reverse their [s]programming[/s] thinking, & let them ingest copious amounts of sugar thatll keep them hyped for the long week following?

    HELP! :(
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    Gee Tony, let em go - theyll survive. ;)

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    NO! Dont do it!

    Keep them away from the McEvil McEmpire...

    ;D ;D

    Personally, Ive had a thing about my kid drinking Coke. Have never let him have it and even now he looks warily at me when hes asked what softdrink hed like to drink and always avoids saying "coke". But I can tell you this much....I sure do know when he has been drinking the stuff! It truly is not good.

    So, I say, stick to your guns, Tony. Let the parents know that you have got an issue with letting your kids eat crap like that. The kids will forget all about it next week because there will be some other party to go to! ;)

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    You cant keep them safe and sound forever. Some things are inevitable, like the truth about the easter bunny and a gradual dawning *when reflecting on the logistics of Santas operation.

    Sure its bad for them, but itll take a fair few burgers before they go the way of Elvis. The down side is that it really does put the kiddies into hyperdrive for a few hours! Not a good thing before bed time.

    Its important to ration the poison, but I think its better to let them go.

    Actually my philosophy with the kids is that kids are more likely to do what I do, rather than what I say. A parents influence on kids is most strongly through the way we parents conduct ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky link=1207290975/0#3 date=1207292056
    ... like the truth about the easter bunny and a gradual dawning when reflecting on the logistics of Santas operation.
    wh, wh, what are you saying Mark ... that theyre not real? :-?

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    let them go.
    As long as they understand the reasons behind the sound principles you are using in teaching them about nutrition etc then there wont be an issue.
    My two rug rats are now 10 and 8, while yes they dont mind maccas every now and again, they would sooner eat either home cooked food or other forms of takeaway. We dont go out of the way to discourage and blot out the fast food chains but we certainly dont encourage their patronage.

    If you are going to ban maccas then you should by principle decline their lolly bags they are given at any other party, cancel easter bunny and only give fruit and vegetables at xmas and birthdays rather than lallies and sweets.

    I agree with Sparky, if you constantly show quality eating habits to them, then will soon follow.

    My kids like taking salad sandwiches to school, go figure, i used to settle for peanut butter and the like.

    good luck with it.

    Just take your own coffee with you, even if they have a mcafe as the barista working generally makes coffees with copious mountains of dry milk foam. mmmm... yuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis link=1207290975/0#1 date=1207291362
    Gee Tony, let em go - theyll survive. ;)
    What, and risk the undermining of my [s]iron-fist[/s] benevolent autocracy when it comes to all things nutrition - HA! ;D

    These are kids that want broccoli on their dinner plates ... & eat it :-?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrindOnDemand link=1207290975/0#6 date=1207294578

    What, and risk the undermining of my [s]iron-fist[/s] benevolent autocracy when it comes to all things nutrition - HA! ;D

    These are kids that want broccoli on their dinner plates ... & eat it :-?
    So do mine and have done since they were babes. They still eat the occasional junk food, lollies etc with no issues.
    My eldest even now understands the difference between needing and wanting food and quite regularly brings part of his meal back because he is full and wont ask for sweets. We dont make them eat all on their plate and encourge to not eat just because its there in front of them or in the cupboard or fridge.

    Kids are smarter than their parents give them credit for, take advantage of it, at least they arent asking to use the car just yet.

    Mal

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    Re: McDamn it ... a dilemma

    a child must always goes against his parents and say LET EM GO!
    HEHE!

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    Ah...opposite world...::)

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    My 2 cents...

    I let my not-quite-three-year-old have McDonalds on the way home from her swimming lesson once a week. She has a cheeseburger, a bag of apples and a bottle of apple juice. She usually eats all the apples, has a few bites of the burger, and I dilute the juice.

    Why not just tell the parents running the party that youd rather they have apples than fries, and juice (or milk) instead of coke - all legitimate options with their Happy Meal menu. You can actually take them to Mickey Ds these days without them running on sugar for hours afterwards.

    Insidently, the same kid likes olives, blue cheese, broccoli, 85% cocoa dark chocolate, and espresso ... I dont think the McDonalds is hurting her, or dumbing down her taste buds.

    At the same time, if you really feel strongly, you can teach your kids a valuable lesson about resisting peer pressure. Teach them its ok to think differently and do things differently to everyone else!

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    My kids have never succumbed to peer pressure because I taught them to think for themselves.

    They ate the occasional McDs and KFC when growing up and still do.
    But its not what they prefer.

    They know they can get a better burger at home and when they want chicken they go to other (not franachise) places they prefer.

    Let them go and ask them to report back on the food.
    You may be surprised at what they think of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlen Coffee Kid link=1207290975/0#8 date=1207307815
    a child must always goes against his parents and say LET EM GO!
    HEHE!
    yeah, maybe in protest HCK ... but youll eventually return matey ;)

    Ah...opposite world...
    mums watchin!

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    Re: McDamn it ... a dilemma

    [QUOTE=GrindOnDemand link=1207290975/0#12 date=1207316361]
    Quote Originally Posted by Harlen Coffee Kid link=1207290975/0#8 date=1207307815

    yeah, maybe in protest HCK ... but youll eventually return matey ;)

    Ah...opposite world...
    mums watchin!

    ;)


    I will have to agree with you there Grind
    and with mum watchin it becomes very tricky ;)

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    Let them go - theyre only kids once, and a bit of fast food isnt going to kill them. Kids at that age rarely finish their Maccas meals, for them its about the atmospere, playground and free toy. We used to go occasionally, and there was a lot to be said for me sitting peacefully on a bench reading the provided paper while my then 4 year old played in the enclosed safety built playground with other kids without saying "Mum.....Mum.....Mum....Mum....". Everyother night he would happily eat his broccoli and brussels sprouts and drink his water.

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    Thanks all for your collective wisdom ... theyre going (with a proviso - no Coke ;))

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    Ha ha... come on over to the dark side. [smiley=evil.gif]

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    Good choice ;) If your still worried, tell them to order the pasta instead or the burger/nuggets.

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    Re: McDamn it ... a dilemma

    With the pasta, ask for the milk sipper straws in Choc or Strawberry. This is also served with low fat (Rev) milk.

    Ask for the fruitbag, not fries with the meals.

    Alot healthier.

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    Re: McDamn it ... a dilemma

    My daughter had the pasta today (shes 24 this month ::)*).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1207290975/15#19 date=1207459638
    My daughter had the pasta today (shes 24 this month ::) ).
    Reminds me of the time when i started eating big macs.
    scoot said "ive lost my little boy" ::)

    Tony there was no-way youd be able to stop them after awhile. ;)

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    ...now if your kids were drinking instant coffee that would be a different story!

    :)

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    Prohibition never works ;)

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    Re: McDamn it ... a dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1207290975/15#21 date=1207581857
    ...now if your kids were drinking instant coffee that would be a different story!:)
    shudder ... :o



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