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    Music at a Coffee Snobs favourite place...

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    Im beginning to play music out and about with my girlfriend. We are a Dynamic Acoustic Duo!! and this is just a bit of research of what the punters want to hear.

    Youre at your favourite Cafe/Restaurant/Pub/Bar and they have music playing...

    Do you prefer live music or cd mixes?
    What Style or genre of music?
    Which bands or Artists do you want to hear?
    What do you prefer to listen to in the morning, arvo or evening?
    Is the focus point on the musicians or company that your with when the music is being played?

    Hope to hear some good responses.

    Cheers

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    Hey there Keirtar.

    I dont think I can answer all your questions as I dont get out much!

    But when I have been out...

    We went to a tapas bar in Dubbo a while back and they had a couple of local young guys playing acoustic guitar. It was great stuff, though as the resturant is small, they were probably a bit loud for conversation.

    And thats my main problem with most music at cafes/resturants. The music is a killer when it comes to conversation. Either its just on the edge of your hearing and is annoying because youre trying to figure out what the song is or its just too loud for any conversation to go on. I really really hate yelling at my fellow diners when at a table!

    I was at St Ali a while back too and whilst I liked some of their music and you could still have a conversation, the bass was probably the most annoying thing of their sound system. All I could hear was the low end thump of the sub woofer. But I am pretty attuned to low end noises as has been proven in hearing tests, so they affect me more I guess. Still, probably good not to have too much bass anyway. As it can affect your body and put you off your food or drink.

    A friend is a muso and hes been doing gigs for years. Mainly RSLs and the like. Sadly the poker machines have killed the pub and club scene for musicians. When weve gone to support him (as in watch him play, not play ourselves!) its really sad to see that everyone hangs around for the raffles but then these places empty and hes playing to very few people. I think he said one night he played to a guy who was asleep in a chair in front of him in this huge auditorium at a club. ;D

    But thats how it is, thanks to pokies.

    Anyway, thats some of my thoughts. Hopefully they were coherant enough.

    Welcome to Coffeesnobs too!

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    Re: Music at a Coffee Snobs favourite place...

    cheers for the reply Scoota Gal and thank you =)

    The last couple of gigs, i have been worried whether we had been to loud but a friend said he could hardly hear us. I guess it depends on a whole lot of factors (size of venue, number of people, sound systems in place). Also it would depend on whether the songs being played are sing-a-long songs or just background music.

    I was at St Ali and noticed that too. i think they were playing St Germain or something similar, which i love, but due to the size of the place and bass booming, it was a little loud. Im only 24 and im already complaining about the noise =)

    Poker machines have a regular beat and can be used as percussion... but due to the poker machine operator the beat is always out of time!

    Cheers

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    Re: Music at a Coffee Snobs favourite place...

    I too dont like music that makes conversation difficult.
    I never did but now that Im deaf in one ear its worsew for me because I cant tune out background noise.

    If the place has bad acoustics sound can bounce all over the place and even quiet music can or a few people talking can resonate and it snowballs with everyone talking louder to be heard etc etc.

    When I go out to a Cafe/Restaurant/Pub/Bar I dont expect music; I go for the food and drink.

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    Hey there Keirtar,

    Playing semi-professionally (solo acoustic) is what Ive been doing for the last 5 years (as well as during the 80s - I had about a 15 year gap during which I played the responsible, respectable family man / bread earner).

    I like playing pubs mainly - especially ones with a bit of character. Hate playing clubs - very cold, soul-less places in the main (and the occasional clanging of a pokie jackpot or "Paging Merv Smith to the bistro, your chops are cooked" can be a real mood breaker).

    Music is something you have to do with passion (a bit like coffee ;)). Do what you love - its the most important element to performing. I play without any artificial backing, etc - just me and my guitar (I hate computer generated performers!!!). I generally play songs that I like and think I do well and generally people respond to that (eg not much old commercial standards that are rolled out everywhere you go - more quality songs, that people may know but havent heard for a while - like Eltons Tiny Dancer instead of Creedances Proud Mary).

    You have to recognise what the patrons are there for - if theyre there for socialising, conversation, etc you have to accept your role as backing music. You dont have to be the focus of everyones attention. Dont be too loud, if you play well, but still beneath the noise of the room, people will still listen to you. But dont try and force them to listen to you. I usually find that I can start talking more to the audience after a while and get them more into what Im doing, slowly build up to have people singing along and maybe dancing.

    Playing cafes is not usually my thing - most are too small and people are not usually there for a long stay (as opposed to a pub). (And they dont have poker machine revenue to cover the reasonable cost of the musician(s) ;)). But if I do, its usually on a low level, background music type of deal.

    Anyway, good luck with it. Do what you love, do it well and enjoy it.

    Greg

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    Re: Music at a Coffee Snobs favourite place...

    Hey Greg,

    Would you happen to know my mate who lives at Tahmoor with the recording studio?

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    Re: Music at a Coffee Snobs favourite place...

    Quote Originally Posted by scoota gal link=1211243045/0#5 date=1211376595
    Hey Greg,

    Would you happen to know my mate who lives at Tahmoor with the recording studio?
    Hey Scoot,

    I know a fella named Mick from Tahmoor whos got a studio in his basement. Plays a bit of rockabilly guitar. Him?

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    Rockabilly sounds right.

    My daughter had to go to Tahmoor yesterday for work and asked me to look it up on the map for her.

    Talk about middle of nowhere.

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    Re: Music at a Coffee Snobs favourite place...

    Quote Originally Posted by GregJW link=1211243045/0#6 date=1211409077
    Quote Originally Posted by scoota gal link=1211243045/0#5 date=1211376595
    Hey Greg,

    Would you happen to know my mate who lives at Tahmoor with the recording studio?
    Hey Scoot,

    I know a fella named Mick from Tahmoor whos got a studio in his basement. Plays a bit of rockabilly guitar. Him?
    Nah, my mates name is Steve and his studio is in his garage.

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    Re: Music at a Coffee Snobs favourite place...

    Quote Originally Posted by Keirtar link=1211243045/0#0 date=1211243045
    Im beginning to play music out and about with my girlfriend. *We are a Dynamic Acoustic Duo!! and this is just a bit of research of what the punters want to hear.

    Youre at your favourite Cafe/Restaurant/Pub/Bar and they have music playing...

    Do you prefer live music or cd mixes?
    What Style or genre of music?
    Which bands or Artists do you want to hear?
    What do you prefer to listen to in the morning, arvo or evening?
    Is the focus point on the musicians or company that your with when the music is being played?

    Hope to hear some good responses.

    Cheers
    Well here goes
    1) Prefer Live but CD is ok as long as the speakers are good (full range)
    2) Ambient or any style underground non commercial music all the way back to the 50s
    3) Cafe/Coffee house Brian Eno is my preferred artist
    Pubs are difficult as it depends on the patrons
    4) Music style will change with the mood of the day
    5) Focus point would be the music itself - than the other 2 follow equally

    Note - I hate music that is over-sampled or badly mixed , extra bass added when it is impossible for the instrument to produce it naturally.

    I have built my own Hi-Fi system with many $Ks spent and I still find vinyl records played through a tube amp still produce the best sound of any style musically speaking

    Koffee Kosmo


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    Re: Music at a Coffee Snobs favourite place...

    I hate music that is too loud.
    Im not impressed by the size of the amp and speakers.
    Quality not quantity.

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    Re: Music at a Coffee Snobs favourite place...

    Hi Guys,

    Very similar tastes to KK in both music and the manner in which it is recorded/reproduced, also throw in some original live recordings of the better Big Bands/Swing. Years ago, I managed to find a couple of hand-built MOSFET amps that sound as good as any Valve Amp Ive ever had (costing several $Ks as well :o) that produce almost immeasurable 3rd Order Harmonics.... Still work and sound beautiful. Quality over quantity every time as TG said.... 8-)

    Mal.

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    Re: Music at a Coffee Snobs favourite place...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal link=1211243045/0#11 date=1212222293
    Hi Guys,

    Very similar tastes to KK in both music and the manner in which it is recorded/reproduced, also throw in some original live recordings of the better Big Bands/Swing. Years ago, I managed to find a couple of hand-built MOSFET amps that sound as good as any Valve Amp Ive ever had (costing several $Ks as well :o) that produce almost immeasurable 3rd Order Harmonics.... Still work and sound beautiful. Quality over quantity every time as TG said.... 8-)

    Mal.
    Mal
    I had a Mosfet amp a long time ago but sold it and other components to fund the next project

    I also like Big Band, Jazz and Classical
    I have built speaker boxes to house my Lowther speakers a 7.1 system for the home theatre (but still to build the horn loaded bass speaker)

    The tube amp has been designed and hand built with 99.9% silver wire throughout
    It is 2 channels but designed with 4 interchangeable sets of tubes to reflect the music that is on

    Also in the middle of building a new plinth for the Garrard 401 turntable

    The old stuff was built to last thats why some instruments many decades old sound as good as the day they were made

    KK

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    Re: Music at a Coffee Snobs favourite place...

    Sounds good KK (slight pun ::)),

    Most of our HiFi equipment would be approaching 20-25 y.o. now but all still working perfectly. Ive got a couple of Connoisseur turntables which are now a bit worse for wear, mainly from relocating as employment needs dictated. Not sure whether to give them a good o/haul or look at buying something more current, such as one of the high-end Stanton jobs. Not sure what Ill do yet? Even toyed with the idea of sourcing a recent model SME Tonearm and fitting that to one of them. Anyway, rather than take this thread any more off topic we can always start a new one for we old-time HiFi aficionados ;).

    Cheers mate :),
    Mal.



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