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    Buying a new car

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    We have decided to get ourselves a new car. Yes a shiny, made in 2007, pretty red NEW car!

    My poor old Camira is on her last legs (shes 20 years old!) and last service our mechanic, aka the greek god as dubbed by all our women friends who know him, told us "you really need to start looking for a new car". I suppose when your mechanic tells you to start looking for a new car its time to start looking for a new car ;D

    So over the last 6 months I have been checking out whats on the road and have noticed a lot of Mazda 3s. Have asked a few mechanics etc I know and got the great car, good price answer. Have had to have a wee chat with OG who said, "well I am not sure if I want a brand new car" as we have to be able to pay for it, not sure if I want to pay the much yada yada yada.

    So OG starts discussing it with his mtes who told him to wait til Jun (yay its june) and get one then at the end of the financial year.

    So we approached the bank - and they said , we will give you more money than you are asking for if you want :o :o :o

    But we had decided on a set limit (20k). They didnt bring out the rack, thumbscrews, nor consult the "how to torture a loan applicant spanish inquisition guidelines. :o :o :o

    It was scarily easy.

    I have found a car, we are off to check it out soon, it is within set spending parameters and the salesman says I should get a good trade in on the camira.



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    Wow, thats exciting, Lucinda. Nothing like a new car! And youve certainly done your homework and have your figures sorted out. Just be a little sceptical for now about the trade in on the camira - when I traded my 23yo laser in, one place offered me $1. In the end I got a $100 for her. :(

    Doesnt sound as though the trade in figure would blow the budget though, so have fun. :)

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    Now is a great time to buy. Every place is looking to offload stock, and will nearly bend over backwards to make the sale.

    The biggest thing you want to look at is running costs. Insurance, rego, petrol, maintenance are all ongoing costs, and should be considered more important than sticker price.

    Im not one to talk about cars, since Im still driving a 1990 Camry, but you cant go past a Corolla.

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    Cool.

    Only ever bought 1 NEW car in my life. The last one we got.
    It was a Mazda 3 and weve been very happy with it.
    They dont tend to move much on price because they are so popular, the car salesmen figure that if they dont sell it to you, there will be someone else along soon enough.

    The only haggling room we found was to do with extras.
    We managed to get the base model (Neo) with the power pack, cruise control, buttons on the steering wheel for the stereo (and cruise), the car mats and the 10k service included. This may or may not be pretty standard, but if you dont ask, you certainly dont get.

    My sister recently got a Mazda 2 and had a similar experience. They got headlight protectors as well but their CD player doesnt do MP3s whereas the Mazda 3 does. I think they got upgraded to a multi CD player, but still doesnt do MP3s. Not important for some, but I thought it was.

    Have fun!

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    I was thinking the new car thing recently, especially with the foolish fuel costs. Ive decided to get my bike licence soon and get myself a little "please run me over" machine to do the millions of short trips, to hopefully take away from the guzzling my Subi Wagon does.

    Good time to buy aparently! Hope it all goes well with the new wheels!

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    Im a member of a credit union which has a car-buying service. Ive used it twice, the agents do all the dealing. They brought the car to me for looking at and test driving. Both times got a good deal and I still have the car - an unsexy but very reliable Camry.

    If you google car buying service you get quite a few hits. This one appears to bhe the biggest http://www.drive.com.au/new/CarBuying.aspx

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    I have certainly done my homework and took everything into consideration.

    Og has never owned a new vehicle in his life, nor have I. They have always been old heaps and it will be nice to have something that
    a) Is looked at twice by nice Mr Policeman
    b) was made this century, not early last century.

    Yeeza, A bike is great. I have had my bike license for years.

    I actually use public transport or my bicycle although that is getting scary nowadays. Our car is not going to be used for those short trips. OG is back to riding his bicycle to work now. Fuel is just far too expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeeZa link=1213921936/0#4 date=1213924267
    Ive decided to get my bike licence soon and get myself a little "please run me over" machine ....
    A license to become a temporary Australian? :)

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    Mazda is a good car but parts and maintanance is a little high

    Toyota Corolla would be my choice but its up to you
    drive both and see what you like best

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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnaus link=1213921936/0#7 date=1213927320
    Quote Originally Posted by YeeZa link=1213921936/0#4 date=1213924267
    Ive decided to get my bike licence soon and get myself a little "please run me over" machine ....
    A license to become a temporary Australian? :)

    Yeah pretty much.... my mates a radiographer; and hes given me enough warning not to. He said youd think he saw more footy players etc, but its actually motorbike accidents victims.

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    Hey Lucinda, I am a Diesel convert and yes I know diesel is expensive at $180.9 in Melbourne today. But we bought a 2005 Turbo Diesel Rodeo a little over 3 yrs ago to Tow our camper trailer, as my 82 commodore was getting a bit old for Towing and the little pulsar was saying 250,000 on the clock and its never towed anything.
    We have had 75,000 trouble free ks and get 820kms out of a tank, 76 litres.So my advice is to have a look at the Hyundai i30 turbo diesel, last years car of the year, it uses less than 5 litres per 100 kms.
    Mazda have a great diesel in the 3 but i dont think they have an auto.Have fun shopping and have a look at A current Affairs website they did a special on car buying recently. Here is the link Lucindahttp://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=569865

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    Quote Originally Posted by martybean link=1213921936/0#10 date=1213943253
    Hey Lucinda, I am a Diesel convert and yes I know diesel is expensive at $180.9 in Melbourne today....
    Oooh, that is expensive! :o ;D

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    Yeah sure is Dennis, The goverment wants us to buy more fuel efficient vehicles, so instead of buying a big V8 or V6 we got a diesel. At the time diesel was about 10 cents a litre dearer than unleaded, and you can really see the savings.
    But in the last few months you are just breaking even compared to a petrol vehicle, at times theres 25 cents a litre differance in Melbourne.The last 2 weeks petrol has caught up though.
    Peolple are saying that the Chinese are buying up all the diesel to build the olympic venues and its forcing up the price.
    Another probably useless fact I found being tossed around is that the air in Bejing is so bad the the pollution from modern diesel engines is cleaner than whats going in the engine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis link=1213921936/0#11 date=1213950373
    Quote Originally Posted by martybean link=1213921936/0#10 date=1213943253
    Hey Lucinda, I am a Diesel convert and yes I know diesel is expensive at $180.9 in Melbourne today....
    Oooh, that is expensive! :o ;D
    So not looking forward to fuel at those prices... :D

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    Fuel is aready about 1.90 a litre in New Zealand, I think they are predicting $2 in the next few weeks...

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    We bought a brand new dual cab ute last year which runs on diesel also. We are very happy with it but the cost of diesel was 189.9 in Wagga today. So in April we bought a brand new motor scooter for the short around town, one person or two person trips. It cost $10.50 to fill a fortnight. Good luck with whatever you decide but I agree its also the ongoing costs to consider. We now use the car only when we have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucinda link=1213921936/0#14 date=1214020183
    Fuel is aready about 1.90 a litre in New Zealand, I think they are predicting $2 in the next few weeks...
    Its already a 1.90 here, Lucinda. Its just a matter of where you live to be seeing those prices...

    My scooter is about the same money to fill and it does me about two to three weeks of running around town. (town is small!)

    If it gets really bad...I guess Ill take up walking around town even. Save my money for when I have to go further away...

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    We bought a Mazda 3 last year and it is hard to fault. We keep our cars over 10 years so build quality is really important and it does not disappoint.

    We live in a rural area and there is only one Mazda dealer so it is pretty hard to bargain. The best move we made was to contact an online car broker. I think we paid $20 and had some competitive quotes within 2 days. We then took these to our local dealer and they said they couldnt possibly match that price but after a few days they eventually came back and said they would. Ultimately they logged on to Mazdas production line and changed the colour of one of the vehicles on the line to match my partners request (I wanted a red one but ...). So it took 6 weeks to arrive but had the stability control we wanted. I would definitely use a car broker again even if it was only to find out what a good price should be. I think we saved over $1000.

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    We have pretty well decided on the Mazda 3 hatch.

    Considered a corolla but a friend who is a saleperson for a toyota dealership told us to be wary of the later models as there have been a few issues. He didnt elaborate but I have later heard they are making some of their parts in Mexico or somewhere exotic and there are quality control issues.

    We also were loaned a car guide on lemons etc and they gave the Mazda 3 a very good write up and 4 stars.

    Hopefully, tomorrow the car we were looking at is available for a test drive and we can se it tomorrow and make a decision.

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    I have heard a few people talk about reverse bidding sites where the dealers bid for your business and they only charge if they save you more than their fee...

    Could be worth a look.....

    For mine look for no less than 10% on driveaway RRP. Thats what fleet discounts get and its definitely achievable on pretty much any car- regardless on whether the dealers say they discount them or not...

    Good luck!

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    Dennis, they still dont get it :)....Perhaps if we wait enought it wont seem funny anymore....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucinda link=1213921936/0#18 date=1214104807
    We have pretty well decided on the Mazda 3 hatch.

    Considered a corolla but a friend who is a saleperson for a toyota dealership told us to be wary of the later models as there have been a few issues. He didnt elaborate but I have later heard they are making some of their parts in Mexico or somewhere exotic and there are quality control issues.

    We also were loaned a car guide on lemons etc and they gave the Mazda 3 a very good write up and 4 stars.

    Hopefully, tomorrow the car we were looking at is available for a test drive and we can se it tomorrow and make a decision.
    The new Mazda 3 hatch is a nice looking car especially in RED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee Kosmo link=1213921936/20#21 date=1214114660
    The new Mazda 3 hatch is a nice looking car especially in RED

    KK
    And especially if it has that little MPS badge ;)

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    Ah yes - MPS
    Must Pay Surcharge

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    Well we are now the proud owners of a spanking new Mazda 3 Neo. Cost a cool 20K driveaway. Should have been more but the advertisement on the net was wrong. So he had to sell it to us at that price.

    I have never felt so stressed in a long time, having to sit through the hard sell of "We can offer you a better deal if you take our finance" and "Do you want to pay and extra 1500 for us to look after of the paintwork and interior (basically the polish and scotchguard deal) Ill throw in window tinting for free"

    All I wanted to do was sign the paperwork and get out of there.

    Oh and they took the Camira off our hands, even though it was worth basically nothing, but it covered the extra $300 for stamp duty etc.

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    Oh yeah. Id forgotten that bit.
    They tried to sell us all the extra stuff. I countered with
    "So what youre telling me is the standard paintjob is rubbish?"
    "Umm.. no. Its just that this will protect it"
    "So why isnt it standard?".. and so on.
    For tinting, the lady went on about the great SPF and protecting the interior from fading in the sun etc.
    I said "We have a garage. Thats got a pretty good SPF".
    She gave up not long after that.

    Anyhow - congrats on the new car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatboy link=1213921936/20#25 date=1214303056
    For tinting, the lady went on about the great SPF and protecting the interior from fading in the sun etc.
    I said "We have a garage. Thats got a pretty good SPF".
    LMBO ;D I dont know you real well fatboy, but for some reason I can totally imagine you saying that to them ;D ;D ;D

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    When I bought a new car (a few years ago, now) they offered a price for the window tinting, and I countered with a price that the local tradesman would do it for. They reluctantly accepted--(I guess their profit margin disappeared!)
    They offered a deal on mud-flaps. I countered with the price the local Auto barn would sell for, and they gave up.
    Glad you got out with your shirt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee Kosmo link=1213921936/0#8 date=1213935913
    Toyota Corolla would be my choice but its up to you
    drive both and see what you like best

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    In the same white goods way that a washing machine is nice.

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    We have had the car three weeks now and OG is in love. He says the way it zips up the hill to get home and the fact it actually goes when he hits the accelerator is wonderful.

    We are very happy with our choice and I am now beginning to realise what a good deal we got as the advertised price has been about $1K - $2k more than we paid, as I got a $300 trade in on the camira (it wasnt worth that believe me) and the stuff up on the internet listing.

    She did have 1000kms on the clock as she was a demo, but we are officially the first owners so get all the warranty etc.

    There are no extras and I didnt even think to ask as I was a bit stressed, but it does have an MP3 CD player, the radio is great, air con and heating and it is comfortable to sit and ride in.


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    Thats great news Lucinda! CS- not only the place to be for coffee info, but buying cars too :)



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