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    Spiders on Drugs - Including Caffeine

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    WARNING - not for those that suffer from Arachnophobia

    Check out the messed up webs that spiders make when on drugs and caffeinated :
    http://www.trinity.edu/jdunn/spiderdrugs.htm

    when you have looked at that check out a similar page :
    http://www.hashish.net/weblife.html

    and when you are done there check out the outrageously funny youtube video about the same thing :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc

    I had a laugh *;D cheers

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    I was actually watching the youtube video as if it was factual, for the first minute, then i realised. ohhhhh.
    Hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrilgoldenrock link=1215676995/0#1 date=1215689525
    I was actually watching the youtube video as if it was factual, for the first minute, then i realised. ohhhhh.
    Hilarious.
    Oh me too, I was totally sucked in by the "documentary" style.... very funny stuff.. ;D ;D

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    Re: Spiders on Drugs - Including Caffeine

    One should take these results with a grain of salt
    As what affects one species may not affect another

    For example A Funnel Web Spider is deadly poisonous to humans but not to Cats
    go figure

    But the video was a trickster to the end
    Was it actually a Government public notice??

    The end credits were First Church of Christ. Filmmaker 2006

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    Hi all

    Kosmo is right on funnel webs and cats - they are immune to the neurotoxin of these spiders. But life is a funny thing, for us aspirin a godsend, for cats its quite toxic. Also theobromine, which is found in chocolate, can cause theobromine poisoning in cats.

    BTW, these studies of drugs on spider webs were done in the 60s and 70s as at that time some people thought it might be a good way to identify drugs as the effect is quite specific for each drug and only a small amount is required. Now we have far more accurate analytical instruments that require very little sample.

    Whats more fun, watching a spaced out spider or a mass spec ?

    Mike


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    You learn something new everyday. Thanks SM.

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    Re: Spiders on Drugs - Including Caffeine

    And KK.

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    Re: Spiders on Drugs - Including Caffeine

    Quote Originally Posted by speleomike link=1215676995/0#4 date=1215780432
    Kosmo is right on funnel webs and cats - they are immune to the neurotoxin of these spiders.
    I heard/read somewhere that humans and baby mice and the only mammals for which funnel web spider venom is deadly. Another site I checked mentions most mammals which makes sense as there wouldnt be much of an opportunity to test on all mammals.

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    Hi all

    Yep flynnaus, its just us and mice that are affected by this neurotoxin. The bugger is that the spider/evolution didnt evolve that to kill us. Scientists believe that it is just a fluke that we are affected. In the same way catnip probably didnt evolve that pychotropic chemical for felines - its just a fluke.
    search on utube for catnip :-)

    BTW, I was thinking. If intelligence had have arisen from a feline species instead of from primates then catnip would have ended up being a prohibited substance :-)
    Catpeople would be allowed 1 gram, beyond which possession would be considered dealing :-)



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    Re: Spiders on Drugs - Including Caffeine

    /shudder

    spiders......

    Snakes, rats, scorpions, clowns, they are all ok, but those eight legged freaks give me the heebie jeebies

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    Re: Spiders on Drugs - Including Caffeine

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelrizzo link=1215676995/0#9 date=1215886298
    /shudder

    spiders......

    Snakes, rats, scorpions, clowns, they are all ok, but those eight legged freaks give me the heebie jeebies
    agreed, you should see me dance when i walk into a web...

    What I found amazing is that most of the drug induced webs appeared reasonably normal and symmetrical except the caffeine web.. It appeared very random and haphazardly constructed..

    much like my life really ;D ;D

    cheers snobs...



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