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    Posted on iphone! this is pretty cool.

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    I got an email this morning from one.

    Showoff!

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    Re: iPhone!

    Sorry to reduce any I-euphoria rb but this post is from my 2 yr old HP ipaq

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    Hopefully Telstra will stay out of stock for the next few weeks.
    Out IT dept is busy enough without worrying with yet another device to learn & support just because the staff want a new toy.
    I got my own back and threw them a bomb and announced that the IT Dept would not support them in the short term and if they went and bought one then they would be on their own.

    I am sure i am now known as the iphone nazi.

    I just dont get the hype with these things, perhaps getting one to play around with in the next 2 -3 months may change my view but i doubt it.

    Better off with a short black and morse code *;)

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    My Nokia does everything it does and more as far as I know.

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    Re: iPhone!

    Personnaly i am waiting for the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 to be released so i can replace my aging 838pro Dopod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bolb link=1216181861/0#3 date=1216200370
    I just dont get the hype with these things, perhaps getting one to play around with in the next 2 -3 months may change my view but i doubt it.
    Imagine one of the better Nokias/Sony/BlackBerry but with a real API, a real developer base, a good interface, no tiny buttons, no silly stylus to lose, small and no "mobile" versions of software. You get a real browser with a good way to navigate it. I even have tabs.

    Even the little touches are really nice. Trying to lock a Nokia or Sony has always been some dumb combination of keys. On the iPhone you push the power button once and it goes to sleep mode. Push it again and it wakes up.

    If you leave it unlocked and let it go to sleep by it self, it automatically locks. Unlocking requires a simple slide of your thumb across the screen. No more accidentally unlocking because the correct combination of buttons was hit and calling that guy you dont really know who happens to be at the top of your contact list.

    To turn off the ringer you flick a little switch. My old Nokia and Sony required navigation of menus.

    The default screen contains useful information and useful shortcuts.

    It may not be the phone for everybody, but you cant deny how well designed it is.

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    Oh $hit. The next thing my kids will be begging for... :( ::)

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    Our MD already has his kids pestering him for an Iphone each.
    I guess he has created his monsters ;D

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    I got its predecessor, aphone. Dont need a fancy gadget to ruin my life. Thats already been taken care of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wine_of_the_Bean link=1216181861/0#9 date=1216247841
    I got its predecessor, aphone. Dont need a fancy gadget to ruin my life. Thats already been taken care of.
    Touche :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wine_of_the_Bean link=1216181861/0#9 date=1216247841
    I got its predecessor, aphone. Dont need a fancy gadget to ruin my life. Thats already been taken care of.
    I had a laugh - well said wotb.

    Convergence these days is getting down to how many snazzy but unnecessary features can be squeezed into ever smaller gadgets.

    It becomes a matter of technosnobbery for people to queue up for several hours for the dubious honour of being the first one to own one of these new gadgets when the commonsense approach is not to buy version 1.0 of anything. Its really only bragging rights.

    Still technology has its advantages if you overlook the hype. It is hypocritical of us to sneer at those who enjoy these super gadgets but at the same time spend several thousand bucks on coffee equipment when we all know that equipment 1/3 the price is also capable of making a very good cup of coffee.

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    I certainly dont need my coffee machine to be able to play music, videos, take pictures, send emails, and surf the web.

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    Re: iPhone!

    A mirror is pretty low tech, and we have enough in the house. But this morning I noticed my wife checking her makeup - with the machine - so Im adding that as one of its functions now. :) Thank God it makes good coffee, damn expensive mirror!

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    Good one recurve boy.

    They have a very cute interface. I have a couple of mates that bought the original iPhone over from the USA and hacked them to work on local networks. The image browser is great to use and the web browser works well. 802.11 wireless means that in most city places you can use the web without high data costs.

    The iPhone 3g has some potential if our local telcos stop being so greedy on the data plans (circa $80 per GB).

    Im curious to see how the iPhone3g goes with the new MS-Exchange connector and expect that is where Bolb and other IT admins will get their grief.

    Does it open MS attachemnts? (word excel etc)

    For me... I find I carry a laptop around with a NextG card as when I need to do remote IT I really need a whole computer but I would love to reduce the size of the bundle to something pocket size (just cannot see it working for me yet)

    Whats the battery life like? That big touch screen looks like it would eat the juice.


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    A recently posted befitting link, methinks, from Koffee Kosmo, relevant in this discussion of relative tech know-how ideas, & its (ultimately redundant) place ...

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1177713250/222#222

    Im a Luddite at heart, so am waiting for the inevitable anti-tech movement to win through, & common sense to gain some ground ... ::)

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    Re: iPhone!

    Has anyone had the lesson of the 90 day rule?

    A story from a guest speaker as I remember it

    My wife and I purchased our dream home it was all we ever wanted
    "Except for the orange come red tiles on the kitchen floor"

    The first thing that had to go was those ugly tiles

    One month later I said to my wife I need to organise a quote for replacing those tiles

    Two months later they started to grow on me and did not seem offensive anymore

    Three months later I was agreeing with the last owner’s choice to use that colour of floor tile as at certain times of the day it made the house a home

    The moral of the story is it takes three months to get to know something

    So with the I Phone it will take 3 months to go back to basics and use it as it was intended "making phone calls 99% of the time"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1216181861/0#14 date=1216260242
    Does it open MS attachemnts? (word excel etc)
    My Nokia does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by recurve boy link=1216181861/0#6 date=1216214129
    Imagine one of the better Nokias/Sony/BlackBerry but with a real API, a real developer base, a good interface, no tiny buttons, no silly stylus to lose, small and no "mobile" versions of software. You get a real browser with a good way to navigate it. I even have tabs.
    I have a better Nokia.

    Quote Originally Posted by recurve boy link=1216181861/0#6 date=1216214129
    Even the little touches are really nice. Trying to lock a Nokia or Sony has always been some dumb combination of keys. On the iPhone you push the power button once and it goes to sleep mode. Push it again and it wakes up.
    Most Nokias can be set to lock automatically.

    Quote Originally Posted by recurve boy link=1216181861/0#6 date=1216214129
    To turn off the ringer you flick a little switch. My old Nokia and Sony required navigation of menus.
    With my Nokia its a single push on the power button and select silent.


    Quote Originally Posted by recurve boy link=1216181861/0#6 date=1216214129
    The default screen contains useful information and useful shortcuts.
    My Nokia has useful shortcuts.
    I can get to all my favourite apps with the push of one or two buttons.

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    I agree with flynnaus. Version 1.0 can be trouble.
    Many years of experience with computers backs this up.

    Too many companies these days treat the customer as Beta testers.

    By the time my Nokia needs replacing I may get an iPhone.
    But not today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1216181861/0#18 date=1216274610
    Version 1.0 can be trouble.
    Many years of experience with computers backs this up.

    Too many companies these days treat the customer as Beta testers.

    By the time my Nokia needs replacing I may get an iPhone.
    But not today.

    Ahhh... very true!

    You have to be a VERY brave person to purchase a new release of any software or hardware.....

    But I wouldnt say "Too many companies"..... Id say "Just about all companies"!!!! And that doesnt exclude Apple either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1216181861/0#18 date=1216274610
    I agree with flynnaus. Version 1.0 can be trouble.
    Many years of experience with computers backs this up.

    Too many companies these days treat the customer as Beta testers.

    By the time my Nokia needs replacing I may get an iPhone.
    But not today.
    TG, this thing has been available in the US for a year - hardly beta...probably closer to obsolete! ;D

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    ---edit--- sorry Dennis, didnt see your post over the page when I posted much the same sentence --- :-[


    The iPhone is far from new... its just new to Australia and the 3g is new (minor change really). * Great sized screen, good resolution, fast processor and an interface that encourages the owner to use it.

    Bolbs "Sony Ericsson Xperia X1" looks like a good device too, even runs *nix so the application development should be pretty quick. *Might be the killer phone of 2008

    Thundergod... does your Nokia use a querty keyboard? *
    (you didnt mention the model yet)

    I currently use a N73 nokia (3G on 3) and its a great phone (no auto-lock TG). *The camera on it is pretty useful as it takes great quality pictures but I dont really want to try and web browse or email from it. *I looked at the external Nokia keyboard when I bought the phone (which would fix the email) but it is still a crummy screen for web and without WiFi it is also expensive to use. * The N95 has WiFi and is better but still has failings.

    I think I need a full sized laptop that folds into a phone sized device and runs on battery for a week.

    Just to go back on-topic for a bit.... Im happy that recurve boy has got a new toy and hope it does everything he needs it to do, including making phone calls.

    :)

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    Up in the cupboard I have a Sony Ericsson P800 that looks like it could have been the forerunner to the iPhone. Its 6 or 7 years old now and pretty chunky by todays standards.

    The user manual is about 120 pages - all in English. Had the works - touch, handwriting recognition, pc suite, outlook and lotus notes, word, excel, p/point, project, email, fax, and even visio viewers. I think it took me 6 months to learn how to use it! ;D

    Good for you recurve boy - if I had an excuse to get an iPhone I would! :)

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    The reason i like the Sony Xperia X1 is the full qwerty keyboard for email which i do quite a few per day.
    Being a microsoft house and at the end point we dont do much in the way of software development, we are a professional consultancy. We have more end users who demand to get their email 24 x 7, we are due to do a blackberry test shortly so this may throw spanners in the works as well.

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    Just last week I configured a Blackberry server for a customer... I called it noxious.

    Nasty software but once you get it running walk away from the server slowly... and never touch it again.

    ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1216181861/20#24 date=1216306939
    Just last week I configured a Blackberry server for a customer... I called it noxious.

    Nasty software but once you get it running walk away from the server slowly... and never touch it again. *

    ;-)
    There are some inherent truths behind the names of some products:
    Blackberry - Nice if theyre supplied to you ready to eat, but maintaining them is a pain.
    nab - to steal
    Apple - It just works. It kind of depends on how you say just really!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1216181861/0#18 date=1216274610
    I have a better Nokia.
    Rubbish. Does your Nokia have an accelerometer with a Lightsaber app? NO. IT DOESNT. :P You also dont have super monkey ball!

    Most Nokias can be set to lock automatically.

    With my Nokia its a single push on the power button and select silent.

    My Nokia has useful shortcuts.
    Possibly I am comparing with Nokia models that I was willing to pay for and thus tried. They are all pretty bad. The only full keyboard gadget Ive tried is some HP job, a BlackBerry and a Palm phoney thing. Theyre no good for typing. One of the good things with the iPhone scheme is that large fingers dont matter.

    You still dont have a massive community of developers. There are phones that are technically better, but this is what is going to win the day. Some of the free ones are already really useful. E.g. Tomato - searches rotten tomatos and returns a full review and the average rating for a movie. I guess you could navigate to their site, but why not just push a button?

    I can get to all my favourite apps with the push of one or two buttons.
    But do you have shortcut that takes you straight to coffeesnobs?

    Being a microsoft house
    Apple is usually a bad choice in this case.

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    Re: iPhone!

    I think I need a full sized laptop that folds into a phone sized device and runs on battery for a week
    Andy
    Try the IMate Jasjam or similar running on Windows Mobile 6
    It will work for everything you want to do
    Even if you use it as a computer or contact manager only and Active sync it to your PC

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    P.S - I made this post with the IMate Jasjam while connected by Active sync with my computer by USB cable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee Kosmo link=1216181861/20#27 date=1216350183
    Try the IMate Jasjam or similar running on Windows Mobile 6
    It will work for everything you want to do
    Even if you use it as a computer or contact manager only and Active sync it to your PC
    The iPhone is (according to M$) not targeted at business users but can sync with MS Exchange servers and can read MS Office documents http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/archives/2007/06/27/iphone-gets-microsoft-exchange-and-office-compatibility/

    I think if you are going to be using a handheld device for business purposes, and you usually use Windows for everything, then you need a smartphone, PDA, whatever based on Win Mobile 6 pr compatible. If you need to email often then you need something with a good keyboard. I like the keyboard that comes with teh Jasjams. Blackberry keyboards look too small and fiddly.

    I find the requirement for Activesync a nuisance though.


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    Andy
    my Nokia is an N70 (also no auto-lock).
    My son has an N90something.
    -----

    recurve
    I have a separate lightsabre.
    That way I can still make calls with one one while using the lightsabre with the other.

    And I could program one of my shorcut buttons to go straight to Coffee Snobs.
    -----

    The phone I have is more than adequate for my current needs.

    recurve the iPhone obviously suits your needs (wants).
    Im pleased for you...so long as you didnt buy iy from T*****a, as I work for Optus and my daughter works for Vodaphone.

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    Re: iPhone!

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1216181861/20#21 date=1216284968
    I think I need a full sized laptop that folds into a phone sized device and runs on battery for a week.
    One of the closest things, not quite, but .... Asus eeePC 1000H

    Cheers

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    Re: iPhone!

    Much as the convergence idea is great I still much prefer to use my laptop (asus 12") than try and type on the silly keys on my phone (Nokia N65) but between bluetooth and WLAN on the phone it does most of what I want or might want if the laptop is not around.

    Still the iPhone is a cool toy :) When they come up with a device that doesnt need a keyboard at that size then it becomes a true must have. Until then read past the hype and discover that it still just makes phone calls :)

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    Re: iPhone!

    The oldest daughter has just got the IPhone (8GB) because her older phone plan has just finished.
    But they are in short supply and has to wait for one to be delivered to the shop


    And "yes" TG it is with Optus

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    Well forget the iphone and get yourself one of these instead. It would probably make espresso too

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU8d7sWy8Ds

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    I just added the "Remote" application to my Iphone and it will run Itunes as a remote controller, over the home Wi-Fi network (my computer is connected to the stereo as one music source).
    So no more running back into the computer room and burning dinner (or worse--the coffee beans) just to change the music!
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    Nice toy for the iPhone Greg... confusing for your visitors when you change tunes on a phone though. Can you get it to remote control the telly too?
    8-)


    Quote Originally Posted by PhilMac link=1216181861/20#30 date=1217393891
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1216181861/20#21 date=1216284968
    I think I need a full sized laptop that folds into a phone sized device and runs on battery for a week.
    One of the closest things, not quite, but .... Asus eeePC 1000H

    Cheers
    Interesting that you posted that Phil, I have just returned from Dads place and he bought a eeePC for himself yesterday. He has never wanted a laptop (too big) so just went without until he found this last week. ...and running *nix sold his anti-"windoze" requirements.

    ::)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1216181861/20#35 date=1218290082
    Nice toy for the iPhone Greg... confusing for your visitors when you change tunes on a phone though. *Can you get it to remote control the telly too?
    8-)
    Ive already got lots of remotes that run the TV--Im trying to get one to run Rocky and the VBM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1216181861/20#21 date=1216284968
    I currently use a N73 nokia (3G on 3) and its a great phone (no auto-lock TG). The camera on it is pretty useful as it takes great quality pictures but I dont really want to try and web browse or email from it. I looked at the external Nokia keyboard when I bought the phone (which would fix the email) but it is still a crummy screen for web and without WiFi it is also expensive to use. The N95 has WiFi and is better but still has failings.
    If you liked your N73 are looking to upgrade look at the N82 - it is basically the N95 packaged into the N73 size and has better standby than the N95 - a natural upgrade for n73 lovers

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    I have turned my iMate JasJam into an iPhone. I upgraded from Mobile 5 to the Mobile 6 and also uploaded a program called iFonz. It is a copy of the iPhone software for MS users. I have also downloaded I-Slide to lock and unlock the phone just like an iPhone and Contacts are the same as iPhone by using your stylis or finger to flick scroll through your contacts.

    Go to youtube and type in iFonz to check it out. Kinda cool with out the expense of an iPhone.


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    When you can upgrade a Windows Mobile phone with multi-touch, then Ill be impressed ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Goodies link=1216181861/20#38 date=1220977311
    I have turned my iMate JasJam into an iPhone. *I upgraded from Mobile 5 to the Mobile 6 and also uploaded a program called iFonz. *It is a copy of the iPhone software for MS users. *I have also downloaded I-Slide to lock and unlock the phone just like an iPhone and Contacts are the same as iPhone by using your stylis or finger to flick scroll through your contacts.

    Go to youtube and type in iFonz to check it out. *Kinda cool with out the expense of an iPhone.
    I am going to give this a go for my Jasjam WM6
    I hope it works with Black WM6
    Thanks for the info ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by m@ link=1216181861/20#39 date=1221000878
    When you can upgrade a Windows Mobile phone with multi-touch, then Ill be impressed ;)
    *What do you mean by Multi Touch. *Mine is a touch screen that I can use with Stylus or Finger. *Does this mean something else? *:-?

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    Re: iPhone!

    I think they mean you can use two fingers at the same time, to say zoom in on a picture, like dragging your thumb and index finger together.

    My Motorola makes phone calls!

    Cheers

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    My Motorola makes phone calls!
    My friend and I were coming home on the train one night from a few drinks out I was telling him about what my new phone could do, (This was a few phones back) We got ourselves rolling around with laughter as he started to give me the run down of his phone. "My phone has got NUMBERS!!!!, and I can CALL PEOPLE!!!!!! ;D ;D

    Its a bit of a you have to be there moment but I think that we get caught up with so much of the other gadgets of the new phones that we forget that it is a phone to ring people on.

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    Re: iPhone!

    Perhaps a bit OT (within the OT area :-) ), but what ROM have the JasJam crew used when upgrading to WM6?

    Ive just got my hands on a JasJam and Im looking at the upgrade soon, but the Black website seems to just have a new release coming soon message and the xda-developers forum has a plethora of ROMs to choose from.

    Brett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatboy link=1216181861/40#44 date=1221008649
    Perhaps a bit OT (within the OT area :-) ), but what ROM have the JasJam crew used when upgrading to WM6?

    Ive just got my hands on a JasJam and Im looking at the upgrade soon, but the Black website seems to just have a new release coming soon message and the xda-developers forum has a plethora of ROMs to choose from.

    Brett.
    Black Satin is the one I use and works great
    Black has stopped developing due to illness in his family
    It can be downloaded from the black site
    But you also have to get the correct SPL
    I have both Black & Satin saved on my comp I can Email it to you fatboy?


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