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    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Did anyone see this invention demonstrated on New Inventors recently.... http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s2542146.htm

    It really does look to solve many of the storage problems using a very convenient method. Probably worth chasing up but I dont know about using it for pre-ground; I spose if you had no other option :-?. For freshly roasted but degassed beans, it really does look the goods though.... 8-)

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    Hi Mal,

    I think that this is what was discussed here :

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1239787135

    Cheers - Carrie :)

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    Re: Promising Coffee Storage Idea...

    Yep,

    That the one.... Meant to post something up about it after the initial episode but other things got in the way ;)

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    Re: Promising Coffee Storage Idea...

    Poor bloke; he has no idea what real fresh coffee smells and tastes like.
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    It wasnt user "jacs" was it? :o

    Quote Originally Posted by 505B59493A0 link=1228987272/15#15 date=1229308955
    Im still waiting for someone to produce a container that has a moveable, airtight plunger (with one way valve) that you can push down onto the beans as you use them. Surely this would be the best of both worlds i.e. excludes around about as much air as a bag, while making it easy to clean up and get rid of the built up oils.
    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1228987272/19#19

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    Re: Promising Coffee Storage Idea...

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    What is the problem with this idea? *Wouldnt it be a good way to store the (whole) beans you are currently using? *Also, a lot of coffee drinkers do buy preground, even Beanbay sell it that way, wouldnt this work for them?

    Im happy with my valve bags but did think it looked an ok idea, so would be interested to know why not.

    Cheers - Carrie

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    Hi all

    Having just watched this guys video on the inventors I can see no difference between his jar that squeezes the air out and squeezing the air out by squeezing the foil coffee bag - both can provide a compacted lump of ground coffee that has less air to be exposed to the surface of the ground coffee. Perhaps with his jar you can press harder maybe. With whole beans there will be no difference at all - they will still have the same air volume in the intercies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3033262F262C2E2A2826430 link=1240666086/6#6 date=1240721523
    Hi all

    Having just watched this guys video on the inventors I can see no difference between his jar that squeezes the air out and squeezing the air out by squeezing the foil coffee bag - both can provide a compacted lump of ground coffee that has less air to be exposed to the surface of the ground coffee. Perhaps with his jar you can press harder maybe. With whole beans there will be no difference at all - they will still have the same air volume in the intercies.
    Except that the jar is, for all intents and purposes, infinitely reusable whereas the bags ultimately wear out and have to be replaced.

    I think its a great idea personally and will be keeping an eye out for the finished article on various retailer shelves... 8-)

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    Re: Promising Coffee Storage Idea...

    I think $40 was mentioned in the other thread, so youd have to go through 100 bags before his invention started to pay for itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4241545D545E5C585A54310 link=1240666086/6#6 date=1240721523
    Hi all

    Having just watched this guys video on the inventors I can see no difference between his jar that squeezes the air out and squeezing the air out by squeezing the foil coffee bag - both can provide a compacted lump of ground coffee that has less air to be exposed to the surface of the ground coffee. Perhaps with his jar you can press harder maybe. With whole beans there will be no difference at all - they will still have the same air volume in the intercies.

    Mike
    The difference may be that the jar actually offers an airtight seal, whereas I doubt that valve bags actually do unless heat sealed.

    Cheers,

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    Re: Promising Coffee Storage Idea...

    Quote Originally Posted by 132F3229232235202823470 link=1240666086/8#8 date=1240755025
    I think $40 was mentioned in the other thread, so youd have to go through 100 bags before his invention started to pay for itself.
    I spose it might be something like this initially but one would hope that economies of scale would bring that down quite a bit, especially with appropriate marketing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2E372123420 link=1240666086/9#9 date=1240758119
    The difference may be that the jar actually offers an airtight seal, whereas I doubt that valve bags actually do unless heat sealed.
    Good point Luca...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 665A475C565740555D56320 link=1240666086/8#8 date=1240755025
    I think $40 was mentioned in the other thread, so youd have to go through 100 bags before his invention started to pay for itself.
    I find the bags a pain the butt. I use them because it is the best solution for me at this time. I would be happy to pay a little more for an easier solution.

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    The only problem is will it go into production and also you will require 3-6 of them unless they make them in a range of sizes. But as a way to take small lots of preground on a trip they are as good or better than any other method.

    After having purchased a few lined paper bags with beans recently I am actually tempted to try them out as well. As you can just roll the tops down as you consume and fold over the wire no more gas tight than an opened foil bag but a little cheaper. Beans come into maturation at about the same time as unsealed foil bags.

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    Re: Promising Coffee Storage Idea...

    Thank you all for posing this topic and the intelligent and stimulating ideas.
    I have been operating under a dual practice regime, .
    The first when Im in full control, which is half thought about (fresh roast beans ground immediately before extracting).
    The second couldnt be much worse if it was intended to be (some grinds in a half full air tight jar) dipped into numerous times and undrinkable in no time.
    After reading quite a lot of these threads, I promise to reform and attempt to improve my practice and make the world a better place.
    I thought a coffee plunger may have some merit for coffee storage, comparing in many respects with the valved bags.
    Perhaps an impervious membrane or two could be used over the plunger piston and pressed down onto the jugs contents.
    Plastic film or any accessable recyclable or disposable membrane could be useful even aluminium foil may have some application.




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