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    Hi All,

    I usually purchase a kilo of beans per month for home use. Problem is that I am not sure how best to store the beans once I have opened the bag. I find that by the time i get about 1/3 of the way through the bag the quality of the coffee decreases significantly. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to keep my beans as fresh as possible?

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    Buy a home vac sealer, there are good deals to be had on online auction sites. Seal in portions that you would use over 3 days once opened.

    Experiment with keeping the sealed portions in a dark cool cupboard, fridge , freezer and see what works best for you in the cup. There is plenty of good info on the webs / other forums on freezing beans. Don't get caught up on " noise " around these subjects, simply experiment and decide what works best for you.

    Most important with any fridge / freezer storage is to let the beans sit unopened at room temp for 24hrs. EDIT: after removal from fridge / freezer prior to use and never refreeze.
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    G'Day Nick,

    The accepted method of storing beans is in one way valve bags in a cool dark spot, not under vacuum and not in the fridge or freezer, although some do choose to use these methods.

    Have a look at this recent thread that discussed the topic in some detail http://coffeesnobs.com.au/general-co...er-vacuum.html one way valve bags are available here CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay - Other Stuff - 500g Stand-up Valve Coffee Snobs Bags with a little care the bags will last for ages.

    Good luck with your coffee journey.

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    I have some 250g one way valve bags and put 250g in one and reseal the rest in the original bag. Then refill the 250g one when its empty.

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    Yep, as above, i just transfer 200-300 grams into a bag at a time, so the larger bag stays sealed over several days without being opened.

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    Yep, yes, yeah. Totally agree with the last three posts, one way valve bags is the way to go.

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    Hi Meggs,

    You're link will get deleted soon as it's a non-sponsor site.

    Site sponsor CoffeeParts have the Friis vault as well:

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    Done sorry.

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    Nah, don't be sorry........happens all the time! ;-)

    Didn't need to delete your whole post either, maybe you could post up some thoughts on the Friis, once you've given it a go?

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    This business of censoring a post because someone mentions a non-sponsored product makes me wonder whether we're living in Australia or Vladimir Putin's Russia. I understand that sponsors expect special treatment and don't want competitors taking advantage of this forum to advertize their products, but when it reaches the point where one can't share potentially useful information or opinions with other members because a sponsor might send his army to Crimea, I begin to wonder about the point of having a forum. I for one keep mentioning that I use a wok to roast my beans, could the sponsors that supply roasting machines start taking down my posts because they don't want people to roast their coffee using anything other than a $400-$1,000,000 roasting machine that they supply?
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    Have a read through the forum rules ax72 http://coffeesnobs.com.au/general-ne...icy-rules.html pretty straight forward, and given this is a commercial site the rule regarding commercial posts is quite understandable.

    The example you use re roasting in a wok is incorrect.

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    Whoa, steady on!....I don't think the post was 'taken down' ax, nor is there censoring of posts discussing products of any kind. No products are 'sponsored' by the site.
    I just let megs know what might happen and put a reference to the product so that if the link was deleted other members could see the product being referred to.

    There is plenty of discussion about all sorts of stuff, including corretto roasters and heat guns, for example..... gear not sold by sponsors.

    I think megs deleted the whole post her/his/ self, .......... no need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ax72 View Post
    This business of censoring a post because someone mentions a non-sponsored product makes me wonder whether we're living in Australia or Vladimir Putin's Russia. I understand that sponsors expect special treatment and don't want competitors taking advantage of this forum to advertize their products, but when it reaches the point where one can't share potentially useful information or opinions with other members because a sponsor might send his army to Crimea, I begin to wonder about the point of having a forum. I for one keep mentioning that I use a wok to roast my beans, could the sponsors that supply roasting machines start taking down my posts because they don't want people to roast their coffee using anything other than a $400-$1,000,000 roasting machine that they supply?
    Mate, for all the criticisms that could be leveled, this isn't one of them.

    This is a privately owned/funded site. We are guests here.

    You may (as per the rules) post information relating to and even directions to alternative gear and alternative sources of gear. As long as that information/direction is not a URL. It's simple and something you agreed to when you signed up to post.
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    Is that what happened to the EK43 thread and meta-thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hildy View Post
    Is that what happened to the EK43 thread and meta-thread?
    I don't know and I don't care.

    I used to admin a forum (technically I still could as I'm a part owner, but currently on sabbatical) and sometimes you just have to act without explaining.
    As Dragunov21 said "We are guests here".

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    ^^^^^All very "off topic" !!
    Whilst i agree that "one way valve bags" are the preferred container for beans not immediately needed, it is how you then store those bags of beans is really what the OP needs to find out.
    We all know that even vac bagged beans will age over a week or three, so the useful bit is to figure out how to maximize that time scale before they become cat litter !
    The freezer works for me, but some are not convinced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hildy View Post
    Is that what happened to the EK43 thread and meta-thread?
    I'm sure one of the mods could give you some insight, were you to ask them nicely. I suspect they have a policy of avoiding pruning conversations as it increases their workload significantly.

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    Yesterday I replied to the above in this thread citing a specific example where a post of mine about using a microwave oven for roasting coffee was deleted. That reply was deleted too. Incredible! Will this post commenting on the aforementioned deletions be deleted too? Are the moderators trying to not-too-subtly tell me that my membership/custom is not wanted? I'm curious now as to whether this post is deleted and/or a moderator decides to actually contact me to discuss...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hildy View Post
    Is that what happened to the EK43 thread and meta-thread?
    ?? This EK 43 thread ??..
    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/grinders/3...43s-caf-s.html

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    Funny, but I can see your thread about microwave roasting just fine, including your replies in it. Others can see it as well as they are replying to it. The latest reply having been made in it just 16 hours ago.

    Or are you perhaps referring to the identical post you made in a different forum minutes after having started the above one? Just as you made multiple identical posts in different forums about microwave brewing. There was no censorship of those posts, one of each identical posts/threads was left intact and the duplicates were removed. What you did is called cross-posting and is frowned upon in pretty much every forum on the net as it wastes peoples time and energy trying to respond to/follow multiple threads discussing the same thing. Not to mention making it very confusing for people trying to find information making them skip back and forth between multiple threads in multiple forums when it is just as easy to have all of the discussion happen in one easy to find and follow thread.

    Imagine the mess this site would be if the other 28,993 registered users insisted on duplicating every thread they started like you did. Instead of having 27,562 informative threads we'd have 55,124 half-assed threads with incomplete answers and people would quickly loose interest in attempting to follow them and would go elsewhere where the information is better organized.

    Pick the appropriate/best forum and start your thread there and no where else!

    Now that you've wasted mine and everybody elses time with an off topic rant over a non-issue it's time to get back on topic. If what I've said isn't clear feel free to contact me via PM.


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    Anyway....

    I simply keep mine in a cool dark place, in an airtight container.

    The key, I believe, is not ordering too many beans at once. I never pick up more than half a kilo, and it's generally time to get more in two weeks or so. That way, not only do I not have to worry about a substantial decrease in quality, but I can drop in to my local roaster, have a chat about what's good, shoot the breeze, and pick his brain.

    You wouldn't buy 10 litres of milk and then try to keep it fresh for a month, would you? Why do the same with coffee beans? Pick up enough for a week or so, and you won't have too many problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoneRanger View Post
    You wouldn't buy 10 litres of milk and then try to keep it fresh for a month, would you? Why do the same with coffee beans? Pick up enough for a week or so, and you won't have too many problems.
    Not everyone has a high-calibre retail roaster within cooee. Postage costs are a concern for a lot of people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragunov21 View Post
    Not everyone has a high-calibre retail roaster within cooee. Postage costs are a concern for a lot of people
    Boy, imagine how long it would take to write a post which covered every exception everyone could think of...

    ...yes, not everyone has a good roaster nearby. Perhaps, then, they should order a kilo, and split it with their neighbour, relative, work colleague, whoever.

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    I know there have been numerous threads on this and I know the common view is the one way valve bags are the best solution which i have been using for years. Well I have found a great alternative which to me does a better job than one way valves. We all try to expel the air after the bag is opened but we usually don't expel enough air. The product I've been using for a few months now does a better job of expelling the air and still has a one way valve. In fact it has two one way valves. The first helps get rid of the air and there is another on the lid but i generally leave my freshly roasted coffee in the normal bags and transfer it to this canister after the degassing. This has delayed the onset of stale coffees by another week or so. This video explains all. Crew Review: Airscape Storage Container - YouTube
    While this isn't a sponsor's product and I don't have a vested interest I feel people should be aware of what's out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoneRanger View Post
    Boy, imagine how long it would take to write a post which covered every exception everyone could think of...

    ...yes, not everyone has a good roaster nearby. Perhaps, then, they should order a kilo, and split it with their neighbour, relative, work colleague, whoever.

    Andrew (wondering how long until someone ask "what if you don't have a neighbour, relative or work colleague...)
    This thread is about bean storage. Presumably anyone interested in it is clever enough to realise that buying less beans more often is a possibility but has rejected that as an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragunov21 View Post
    This thread is about bean storage. Presumably anyone interested in it is clever enough to realise that buying less beans more often is a possibility but has rejected that as an option.
    I haven't rejected it, in fact I only buy a small amount each time but I'm interested in delaying the getting stale process a few days so that the last few cups from that batch are still good or at least acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barri View Post
    I know there have been numerous threads on this and I know the common view is the one way valve bags are the best solution which i have been using for years. Well I have found a great alternative which to me does a better job than one way valves. We all try to expel the air after the bag is opened but we usually don't expel enough air. The product I've been using for a few months now does a better job of expelling the air and still has a one way valve. In fact it has two one way valves. The first helps get rid of the air and there is another on the lid but i generally leave my freshly roasted coffee in the normal bags and transfer it to this canister after the degassing. This has delayed the onset of stale coffees by another week or so. This video explains all. Crew Review: Airscape Storage Container - YouTube
    While this isn't a sponsor's product and I don't have a vested interest I feel people should be aware of what's out there.
    As always seems to be the case the Seattle Coffee Gear's review contains inaccurate information once again demonstrating their lack of knowledge of their products.

    This Airscape container does not have 2 one-way valves. It has only one. The clear outer lid has the only one-way valve in the container. The inner plunger does not have a one-way valve. Rather it has a vent that is opened and closed by pivoting the handle. With the handle up the vent is open, with the handle down flat on the plunger the vent is closed which makes the plunger an airtight seal.

    I've been using a 64oz Airscape container for storing roasted beans in since receiving one as a sample at last years SCAA conference and have been very impressed with it. While there was a cosmetic/quality control issue with the containers on display it does not affect its functionality. After a year of regular daily use the container continues to perform exactly as advertised.


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    I stand corrected, Java "the educator" phile, but it sort of acts like one. When I push down on the plunger air comes out not in. Then I lock it. I'll call it a pseudo one way valve. Anyway I really like it and its worth investigating. Very few places in Aus sell it. I could only find one. If you google airscape in Australia you should find out. The cosmetic/quality control issue I think Javaphile was talking about was the ugly label was hard to get off. Nothing to do with its storage functionality. You can correct me again if I'm wrong but I soaked it in hot water for 5 minutes and the label peeled off easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barri View Post
    I stand corrected, Java "the educator" phile, but it sort of acts like one. When I push down on the plunger air comes out not in. Then I lock it. I'll call it a pseudo one way valve.
    And when you pull the plunger up the air goes in not out. Easier to call it what it actually is, a 'closeable vent'. It accurately and succinctly describes what it is in two words rather than calling it a 'pseudo one-way valve' and then have to explain just what that very grey and fuzzy phrase means.

    The cosmetic/quality control issue I think Javaphile was talking about was the ugly label was hard to get off. Nothing to do with its storage functionality. You can correct me again if I'm wrong but I soaked it in hot water for 5 minutes and the label peeled off easily.
    The annoying removal problem of the label was one issue. The other being the non-slip rubber disc on the bottom of the canister being applied well off-center. All the canisters in the display had the disc in the same location which implies that quality control failed to catch what should be a simple adjustment to the application equipment. Minor but noticeable and easily corrected cosmetic/non-functional issues that shouldn't be present on what is otherwise an outstanding product.

    Having worked in Quality Control in multiple industry's as an inspector, a tech, and as the head of the department such issues are a 'burr under my saddle'. All the more so when they are so easily detected and corrected.


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    Not everyone has access to fresh coffee or roasters. Or sometimes you want to try a specific coffee but want to minimise postage with no one to share with.

    One thing that has worked for me in the past is once you receive your coffee, seal up the 2 way valve and freeze the whole bag without opening it up. This only works if it comes in 250gm bags. Don't open it up from the freezer because the condensation will ruin it quickly.

    When you want to use, take it out and let it defrost over night without breaking the seal in a cool dark place.

    But the best really is to buy fresh. Even if you pay more for postage and get only 2-3 weeks worth.

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    I do wish people would stop going on about freezing freshly roasted coffee.

    The fact is that frozen coffee is to freshly roasted what frozen foods are to fresh produce... there just isn't any comparison and frozen will never be as good so please stop promoting it as a viable, Coffee-Snobs-worthy, option.
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    Until someone comes up with something conclusive (besides because I'm in the industry and I said so) I think it's fair to say:

    - There may be more than one valid opinion as to whether it is detrimental to flavour.
    - Even if it is detrimental, it may be the lesser of two evils for those who purchase in relative bulk; I'd rather eat bread that had been frozen for three weeks over one that had been on a shelf for three weeks.
    - It would behoove anyone who really cares and is considering freezing to do their own little test to see if it negatively impacts their enjoyment of their coffee
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    Many used to think that the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth. Both were popular opinions but neither one of these opinions was valid. Having an opinion does not necessarily make it valid. There are obvious truths and supposed truths (opinions) and I would suggest that "frozen foods will never be as fresh or as palatable as fresh foods" is an obvious truth and hardly in need of evidential support.

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    Those opinions/theories were valid at the time, until actual evidence came to light. They're also objective, observable facts, which "x tastes significantly better than y" is not.

    That frozen beans are "less fresh" is a given. Whether or not they are noticably less palatable to the majority of home coffee enthusiasts or that they are less palatable than beans that have been sitting in a bag in a cool dark place for a week or two is up for debate.

    The only blind test I've seen on the matter resulted in an average accuracy of about 45%. I've no doubt that there are people who could taste (and would be bothered by) the difference, but I'm just as convinced that for some people, their ability to make espresso and their palates are likely to mask such difference.

    Whether or not that group of people is large I don't know, but you're the one dismissing it out of hand.
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    To be honest - Who cares?

    The subject has been done to death IMHO. If someone wants to freeze their roasted beans, go for it I say...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinitasse View Post
    "frozen foods will never be as fresh or as palatable as fresh foods"
    That's not the point though. I don't think anyone is saying that frozen is as good as fresh, what they are saying is that frozen is better than stale. Freezing delays the staling process considerably. Obviously the preferred option would be to buy small quantities of fresh coffee every week, however for some people that isn't always practical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    To be honest - Who cares?

    The subject has been done to death IMHO. If someone wants to freeze their roasted beans, go for it I say...

    Mal.
    Spot on Mal,

    If anyone feels the storage method has merit, I say go for it.

    As a matter of interest none of my roasted beans will never see the inside of a fridge or freezer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinitasse View Post
    ...... I would suggest that "frozen foods will never be as fresh or as palatable as fresh foods" is an obvious truth.....
    That is true in its literal sense, but in the real world it is often the other way around.
    What most of us perceive a fresh produce..that green stuff on the open shelves in the supermarket .. is often much "less fresh" in terms of both time from being picked from its growing medium, and in terms of it biological state of decay,...than a frozen equivalent.
    Modern fast freeze processing can have veg's picked and frozen in a few hours, compared to the days it takes for unfrozen products to be picked , processed, packed, stored and transported before they get into the stores.
    Food scientists have tested and stated that many frozen veg's contain more nutritional value than similar store bought "fresh veg" .
    Of course there is no comparison if you grow your own veg in the garden !

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolio View Post
    Hi All,

    I usually purchase a kilo of beans per month for home use. Problem is that I am not sure how best to store the beans once I have opened the bag. I find that by the time i get about 1/3 of the way through the bag the quality of the coffee decreases significantly. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to keep my beans as fresh as possible?

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    Hmmm, a third of a month is about 10 days, and fresh coffee should keep considerably better than that.

    Is the coffee really fresh? I mean less than a week past it's roasting date? If it is 2 or 3 weeks aged when purchased, then the 10 days to stale makes more sense.

    If a purchase a month is your best option I'd be:
    Dividing the kilo into 250 gm (at most) one-way valve bags.
    Storing the 'reserve' bags in a cool, dark cupboard.
    Minimising exposure to air by purging the current bag after every open.

    I've tried vacuum, fridge, and freezer and don't like any of them--but try for yourself. Experiment on one small bag and compare with a cupboard bag.

    It may be that you like the more acidic 'fresh' flavour and a lighter roast would suit better.

    Some beans seem to be best **after** three weeks or more of storage. Try different beans and see what you prefer.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    none of my roasted beans will never see the inside of a fridge or freezer.
    Mine either...

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    I tried it all over the years, containers, fridge, freezer etc, now I just keep it in the original one way vented bag, under the bench out of the light.

    But then I also buy so as to always finish what I buy within 3 weeks, I don't like the 3rd week fall off, I guess when I was trying other methods of storage, I was always fighting that change in flavor etc, in the end I just though it was not worth buying a KG at a time based off how much I drink, and would rather pay a little more and never have it sitting around more than 2 weeks.

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    I'm travelling to Cape York soon, over a month, and hope to reach the tip. The real fun will be in some of the country in between. The destination is quite popular in the middle of the year, and common things are easily purchased for a price. Coffee is a hot and miss affair. Some places may have a good cup, but normally we travel every day. In this regard I am going to use a portaspresso device and belman stove top steamer.

    I haven't done a trip this long without beans resupply. Posting up new ones isn't really an option.

    What I'm thinking is 500g bags (or maybe I can get 250g ones done?) stored in a small esky (no ice). It will warm to 30something degrees during the day, and eventually the esky will retain the heat. Likely to go through 1.5kg.

    Does anyone have a better idea?

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    Green beans, roast in a wok?

    30deg is gonna kill them...

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    On the other side of this topics coin....

    Does anyone know if there is a way to age roasted beans effectively without the standard resting time..... tick-tock? The reason I ask is that I got my wife to pick me up a 250g bag of beans from a local cafe that use a well known Brisbane roasters coffee. The roast date was 3 days prior and the barista told her that if I wanted to use it the next day then leave the bag open overnight.

    My immediate thought was "i'm not doing that" and that the beans would go stale but has anyone actually done this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Spot on Mal,

    If anyone feels the storage method has merit, I say go for it.

    As a matter of interest none of my roasted beans will never see the inside of a fridge or freezer.
    ummmmm..........double negative there Yelta........ you don't seem to be the sort of bloke who would store their beans in the fridge? ;-)


    ............unless you're taking the mickey and I'm feeling too serious ........??? ;-D

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    How does freezing or cooling in a fridge affect taste? (Less fruity, more bitter, etc etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chokkidog View Post
    ummmmm..........double negative there Yelta........ you don't seem to be the sort of bloke who would store their beans in the fridge? ;-)


    ............unless you're taking the mickey and I'm feeling too serious ........??? ;-D
    Typo guy's, should have read (As a matter of interest none of my roasted beans will ever see the inside of a fridge or freezer.) by the time I picked it up too late to edit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazooka View Post
    How does freezing or cooling in a fridge affect taste? (Less fruity, more bitter, etc etc)
    Oh boy !.. wait for the flack !
    In my experience , Freezing doesnt change the taste at all, it simply extends the useful storage period of a roasted bean.
    As with all things, others opinions may differ, and the only way to be sure is to test it yourself.
    But do it in a controlled way with split samples and blind tasting to eliminate any bias !
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    I am assuming brace position at the moment, waiting for the enlightenments . From my personal experience, the chilled bean tasted more bitter but there were a few things that could contribute to it such as

    1. Not statistically accurate as it is only one data point
    2. It is the first shot I prepared so the brewing temperature might have been elevated and higher temperature differential between cold beans and brewing might have some unfavourable physical or chemical interactions that affected taste
    3. Whatever else that could go wrong

    A genuine interest from an eager mind folks, go easy on me and have mercy on my ignorant soul

    Thanks

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