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    what bag for storage?

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Can anyone give advise as to which storage bag I should be using for my coffee?

    So far ive only seen the one-way valve bags which seem expensive to buy. Ive also seen the "foil" type ones which do not have a valve but are still sealed (by heat sealer I think).

    Can anyone point me in the right direction ie pros vs cons of each one....and where I can get them?

    Many thanks.

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    Re: what bag for storage?

    moy71,

    Do you mean for storing roasted or green?

    Roasted:
    Depends on how long you envisage storing them.
    I use the foil bags with the one-way valve - 250g. They work out to between 50 cents and 80 cents each, depending on where you get them. I seal them by ironing the top. Works a treat!
    I usually only store these for 1 or 2 weeks myself. Beyond that, I want fresh stuff again.
    Friends I have roasted coffee for and given in these bags have held on to them for 6 weeks and still maintain they liked the coffee :-X but thats a whole other topic.
    If you reckon youre going to use them fairly fast, then a jar or simple zip lock glad bag might be sufficient (out of direct sunlight).

    Green:
    There have been a few discussions about this in the past.
    Members here use calico bags, pillow cases, tins, boxes, plastic containers and other such stuff.
    The main thing seem to be:
    Keep out of direct sun
    Not too warm
    Not too humid

    And then the beans will last for many months (apparently).

    Personally, I use a mixture of plastic containers and calico bags. In my shed outside, not in direct sun.
    I havent noticed any of my green bean stock suffer any adverse effect so far.

    Hope that helps.

    Brett.

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    Re: what bag for storage?

    THanks for the info Brett.

    I do plan to use the bags for roasted beans. However, am having trouble finding/sourcing them.

    From your reply, I think the foil bags are the way to go. Are you able to give me (if this board allows it) your contact for buying these bags? If not permitted, then please PM me if you dont mind.

    I was originally looking for a "sealer" for these things, but your "iron method" really looks the way to go.

    I also imagine that if these foil bags come without the one-way-valves, then it would even be cheaper?

    Looking forward to your reply.

    cheers
    ROger


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    Re: what bag for storage?

    Moy71, the cheapest solution to your storage problem is the plastic "zip" bags sold in bulk in supermarkets.

    Take a pin, prick the bag *(and, if you like, circle the pin-hole with an indellible marker so you know where to find it. Thats handy if you want to squeeze the bag and put your nose near the aroma later on!). *

    Freeshly roasted beans will de-gas. *The build up of carbon dixode pressure will swell the bag and prevent any air entering. In other words, a defacto one-way valve.

    If your beans are "seasoned" beyond the de-gasing stage, you may choose to store them in any sealable container, such as a glass jar, away from sunlight. *

    I like to consume my home-roasted beans within 4 days, which ensures peak freshness.

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    Re: what bag for storage?

    [QUOTE=fatboy link=1128323684/0#1 date=1128325116]moy71,

    Fatboy says:

    "If you reckon youre going to use them fairly fast, then a jar or simple zip lock glad bag might be sufficient (out of direct sunlight)."

    Thanks for the tips. Im also looking for a short term storage solution-- I never keep roasted beans much more than a week. Instead of the zip-lok bags, how so you think those ceramic jars with air-tight clamp lids would go? They are a bit like the ones that my grandma used to keep stewed fruit in (if that helps!)???

    Im hoping this might be a more enviro-friendly solution.

    Whaddyareckon?

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    Re: what bag for storage?

    Thanks for the tips. Im also looking for a short term storage solution-- I never keep roasted beans much more than a week. Instead of the zip-lok bags, how so you think those ceramic jars with air-tight clamp lids would go? They are a bit like the ones that my grandma used to keep stewed fruit in (if that helps!)???

    Im hoping this might be a more enviro-friendly solution.

    Whaddyareckon?

    RevMcT
    Rev,

    This is exactly what I use for my weekly coffee. A Maxwell and Williams ceramic canister with the airtight clamp lid.
    I just make sure I open it at least 3 or 4 times within the 24 hours immediately after roasting to allow any Co2 to escape. I usually manage this in the course of my normal coffee making.
    Some people would advise leaving the lid undone for a few hours if putting freshly roasted beans in, but I have not had any issues with my method so far.

    Brett.

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    Re: what bag for storage?

    Double thumbs up for Maxwell and Williams ceramic canisters.

    Boris ;)

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    That makes six thumbs for Maxwell and Williams ceramic canisters. Might have to have a look. ;)

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    I use slide lock zipper bags, wash and reuse them. Pretty cheap for $1.50 for 20, and Multiple uses.

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    Re: what bag for storage?

    Hi All,

    I more or less use the same procedure as "nunu", except that I use the Black, Foil-lined bags that you get from CoffeeParts and elsewhere. I clean them out carefully with a paper towel doused in metho, leave the mouth of the bag wide open so the vapours of the metho evacuate the bag, then seal and put away ready for next time. Only use these bags for short-term storage of the coffee immediately after roasting. Once Im ready to use the coffee, the beans are transferred into similar canisters to the M&W Ceramic ones that posters above are using.

    So far, Ive been using the same batch of bags for more than a year with little signs of wear and tear. Also use the bags when sending out gifts of fresh coffee to friends and relies. Once theyve used all the coffee, they send the bags back to me with a very courteous request like "Can we have some more of that delicious coffee please Mal, pretty please?".... I mean, how can I refuse,

    Cheers,
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    Re: what bag for storage?

    For storing my green beans I did make some bags of of large green bean sacks I got from a local roaster but it was a lot of time stitching the up but the some how disappeared in one of the clean ups my wife did when I was at work but I found a easer way if you have green beans you want to keep in cotton bags.In woolwoths they have creamish coloured cotton carry bags for a hole 0.47c each which I cut in half and hand stitched then back up 2 bags out of one would hold round 5 kg and cut the handles off and use them to tie the bags up... ::)

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    Re: what bag for storage?

    Quote Originally Posted by coffee_nuts link=1128323684/0#10 date=1132378402
    In woolwoths they have creamish coloured cotton carry bags for a hole 0.47c each which I cut in half and hand stitched then back up 2 bags out of one would hold round 5 kg and cut the handles off and use them to tie the bags up... ::)
    Good one CN [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

    Ill have a look for those bags next time Im in town at Woolies. Sounds like a simple way to get good quality storage for green beans,

    Mal.

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    Re: what bag for storage?

    Ive seen the bags, they are like cotton versions of the green enviro bags, and are usually in the same place. Havent seen the price of them, but they cant be too dear.

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    Re: what bag for storage?

    Has anyone ever used a vacuum container like Vacu Vin or Veriseal?


    http://www.vacuvin.nl/con-cs.htm


    http://www.lentek.com/Main/Main.asp?...&CategoryID=5&

    Would they be any good or are they just a gimick?


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    Iíve used the Vacu Vin and found it useless in the end after doing an exchange on the unit and finding they would not hold there seal I binned it...donít waste you time or money :-?

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    Re: what bag for storage?

    I use a combination of the vacuum sealed container, maxwell and williams, and zip lock bag. Although the vacuum sealed containers do lose their seal after a few days, I dont mind repressurizing them. I cant really say that I notice a difference between either method, although I would have though that sucking the oxygen out of the vacuum container would preserve the bean better.

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    Re: what bag for storage?

    I have and use one of those vacu vin containers for beans between roasting and grinding. Its worked quite well for me in as far as the seal is strong and holds well. Not sure if it really affects the coffees shelf life though.

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    Re: what bag for storage?

    Thanks everyone for your feedback on the Vacu Vins.

    Was going to mail order one, but I suppose Ill just stick with the zip locks for the time being, but if I see one in a shop I might just get it, to try it out.



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