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    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    From the latest Aillio newsletter:

    The new PCB is being developed for the 220v models first. New Bullets sold with both the new IR bean sensor and the new power PCB will be referred to as the Bullet R1 version 2, or Bullet R1v2 for short. It is with this model that we plan to enter the Australian market, which has been waiting patiently for quite some time now.
    Just a little longer… there is light at the end of the tunnel and it is quite bright.
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    Definitely will be great to eventually be able to buy one of these R1v2 with the new improvements

    Hopefully not just vapour.

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    Dear Aillio, I note your newsletter says that you are redeveloping the PCB to suit 220V supply. In Australia we are 230 +10% - 5%. We used to be 240V +/- 6%. Whichever you choose, the upper voltage limit is about 253V and the lower limit is about 219V. Compliance testing will test your appliance over this voltage range and at the upper limit of designed ambient temperature. You need to ensure that your PCB operates under these wide supply voltage and ambient temperature variations. It does surprise some coffee equipment importers (to Australia) that their 220V appliances (design and tested for European supply) fail some compliance tests in Australia because of the 230V +10% - 5% supply standard.
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    Espresso Company Australia (the importer) will ensure it's usable in our market... I wouldn't worry.
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    having dealt with this issue in our business, this could be a huge issue for an electronic power supply at around 10 Amps. it usually mean the capacitors and inductors required to suppress the emissions are large and expensive. I hope they get it sorted without too much expensive add ons.


    Quote Originally Posted by mikef View Post
    For those of you who received the update email about the Aillio roaster, the reasons for the delay appear to be now pretty clear. It appears that the delay is not due to delays caused by testing authorities. Aillio don't seem to be able to meet electromagnetic emissions standards and have to redevelop the inductive drum heating which requires the redesign of the PCB that controls drum heating. This type of inductive heating makes this roaster unique however emissions standards maybe why other roaster manufacturers have stayed with radiant and convection heating which require much higher power/energy. Let's hope that what makes Aillio so attractive can be made compliant too. Fingers crossed.

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    I agree Brett. Issues around 110V, 220V versus Australian 230V for high-powered electronics and EMF emissions can be substantial. If they weren't then we wouldn't be waiting years for a 230V version that passes compliance testing. The importers are not in a position to make the roaster suitable for our 'market'. This design issue is about making the roaster suitable for our electricity system and compliant with our electrical standards. It is being resolved by Aillio's engineers working with Aus testing authorities.

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    looks like we might go through another xmas without this roaster... does anyone have any news of progress? I'm tempted to cancel the order now...
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    I've cancelled my order. It's taken too long to overcome technical challenges.

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    Does this mean it will require a 20 amp circuit? if so I will be cancelling my order.

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    So itís going to be even more expensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty888 View Post
    So it’s going to be even more expensive
    Even at $6k it would be cheap.

    If considered against a high quality 1kg roaster such as 1.5kg Proaster at $14.5k + all of the associated installation costs, it's a bargain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolbee View Post
    Does this mean it will require a 20 amp circuit? if so I will be cancelling my order.
    Article posted by Tucrazy says itís drawing 1600W, so all fine on a 10amp circuit. I wouldnít be running it on the same circuit as your espresso machine and grinder though.

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    Hmmm...

    That'd be a good trick - Run the Espresso Machine, Grinder while in the middle of a 1.0Kg Roast of Ethiopia Yirgacheffe Special Prep....

    Mal.

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    I am seriously interested in this roaster. I hope version with the new PCB will be available soon.
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    anyone get a mice update?
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    Be interested to hear too.

    Saw a post on insta talking about a 2kg version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    Be interested to hear too.

    Saw a post on insta talking about a 2kg version.
    I would be happy for now if the 1kg version would be available :-)
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    I watched a demo roast at MICE, it is an impressive unit, the heat monitoring probe and roast control software were impressive, I have a bag of Sumatran beans roasted in the demo on my shelf waiting for consumption.
    If I didn't already have a roaster I would trying to get my hands on one of these units.
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    Greenman, was this one of the V2 units with the new PCB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mipl View Post
    I would be happy for now if the 1kg version would be available :-)
    From the horses mouth, it's now weeks, not quarters or years away. Only formalities are left to complete now.
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    any word on the final retail price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justacuppa View Post
    any word on the final retail price?
    RRP north of $5k and under $6k inc GST

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    Makes me glad I haven't given up on my pre-order of 3 years!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Greenman, was this one of the V2 units with the new PCB?
    Yes, they had the board on display.

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    20190209_113206.jpg

    pic taken at MICE
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    Iím really looking forward to some Aus reviews of this. Iíll be keen in middle of year to pick one up
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    Don't hold your breath Rusty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Don't hold your breath Rusty.
    Donít worry Iím not. But that market itís a great option
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