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    Kaldi, home roaster ??

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Has anyone seen or tried the Kaldi home roaster ?

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    Its a manual stovetop drum roaster that has shown up on Ebay,
    Has a 120mm dia drum , capacity 250gms, and a thermometer built in.
    Priced at $250 and made from all stainless and copper it seems a rival for the other mini drum roasters .

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    I see they have a motorised drum drive version for $450 also
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    Adorable!

    But the one I found sold the trier and hopper separately.

    There Is Extra Charge For Hopper and Probe Rod
    Hopper=$45.00, Probe Rod=$15.00
    Did a quick youtube search, can't find anything. I'd love to see it in action...

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    mmmm shiny, keen to hear how it performs.

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    I'm confused as to how it dumps the beans?

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    Well, there's that 1 hole. Probably used for everything...

    The more I thought about it, if there are no design flaw, this should stand above and beyond the baby roaster. Similar batch size, cheaper, and most importantly air flow. Might be smoky though. IMHO, just judging it from the pictures.

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    The baby roaster is a well designed, well built and proven roaster. It was designed as a sample roaster and learning tool. It is sold and distributed by a reputable and extremely knowledgeable company, that has provided a great deal of advice about its use and techniques.
    This unit has potential, but is unproven.
    Also build quality is uncertain.
    Resale value, if not to your liking; probably ziltch.
    I would not touch it, sight unseen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosco_Lever View Post
    I would not touch it, sight unseen.
    Chill, brah. Didn't mean to offend. As I said, if there are no design flaw.

    Haven't seen any pictures of the insides, will the flame directly hitting the beans? how fast the temp can be drop? airflow control? is it possible to add fan on the hopper for airflow control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kutis View Post
    Chill, brah. Didn't mean to offend. As I said, if there are no design flaw.

    Haven't seen any pictures of the insides, will the flame directly hitting the beans? how fast the temp can be drop? airflow control? is it possible to add fan on the hopper for airflow control?
    Not offended.
    As you said, no pictures of the insides. No video of how it works. Location of flame in relation to the drum is very important. As you need to use a portable camp stove, this aspect will be important in determining roast times.
    Build quality is hard to determine.
    Seller is just a reseller. If actual info from the manufacturer was available, it would help with the decision making.
    Batch size is small, so for the money and risk, there are better, proven alternatives.

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    at $450 is it on par with a behmor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by don_nairn View Post
    at $450 is it on par with a behmor?
    Pricing (ex postage) seems comparable, but would be very though to beat Andy after sales service, got my queries on behmor plus sorted in no time flat, well instantaneous response is slight exaggeration, just slight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosco_Lever View Post
    As you said, no pictures of the insides. No video of how it works. Location of flame in relation to the drum is very important. As you need to use a portable camp stove, this aspect will be important in determining roast times..
    To be fair, there are plenty of pictures and descriptions of the drum, material (options for direct flame etc) for anyone who bothered to look.
    Camp stove ?, why not stove top, fine flame adjustment and use the fume hood for extract !
    just seems like a simple ( no controls etc to fail) , manual roasting drum....probably a bit too shiny and overpriced !

    My preferance would be this one at only $90 complete with the electric drum drive !
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    Quote Originally Posted by blend52 View Post
    To be fair, there are plenty of pictures and descriptions of the drum, material (options for direct flame etc) for anyone who bothered to look.
    Camp stove ?, why not stove top, fine flame adjustment and use the fume hood for extract !
    just seems like a simple ( no controls etc to fail) , manual roasting drum....probably a bit too shiny and overpriced !

    My preferance would be this one at only $90 complete with the electric drum drive !
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    I did bother having a look and stand behind my comments.
    Obviously you have never used a baby roaster, or similar unit, hence you would not be recommending stove top over a camp stove. (And indoor roasting)

    "Just seems" is an assumption. You know what happens when you assume.

    No antagonism intended.

    As you said, it does have potential. I don't think much of your $90 option either.

    I have used a baby roaster for almost four years, and after a while you understand what it is capable of. I doubt the Kaldi will be able to replicate the result. In browning ability, yes; but not in flavour.

    I also question why anyone would want direct flame onto coffee beans?????. It comes with a copper tube to slide over the mesh to provide an "imitation" of a drum roaster, but I can see many flaws with the setup.

    People are free to purchase if they want, but as I said, there are many proven alternatives.

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    Hello, here are some videos and pictures of Kaldi roaster:

    motorises version



    manual version



    http://blog.naver.com/tm1010/220013036124

    http://blog.naver.com/tm1010/220006200253

    http://blog.naver.com/jirisan72/20209387063

    Please, what can you recommend for home roasting beginner? The Kaldi or FZ RR 700 baby roaster? Thank you, Alex
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    I think comparing the kaldi and baby roaster is really an apples and oranges kind of issue.

    Many people on this thread seem to be trying to get a good bargain, and you're welcome to do so (if not encouraged) but you cannot then jump to the conclusion that they can knock roasters like the hottop and behmor out of the market- let alone the baby roaster without even having any hands on experience with the new roasters. In principle they sound great, but when all is said and done, you really still do get what you pay for.
    I'd say it is dangerous to speak highly of any appliance and quickly say they might outdo a known appliance in the same category purely based on 'specifications' ; especially when it retails for less than half of the other - we've already seen this happen with many other roasters before this one and I have my doubts on this one.

    That said, this looks interesting and id be pleasantly surprised if it does perform similarly to other small batch roasters like the behmor or baby roaster.
    The next question to ask then is how durable is this thing and how experienced is the person doing the review?

    Just my 2 cents
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capoeira View Post
    Hello, here are some videos and pictures of Kaldi roaster:

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    Please, what can you recommend for home roasting beginner? The Kaldi or FZ RR 700 baby roaster? Thank you, Alex
    Thanks!

    For beginner, baby roaster, no contest. Beginners need helps and information, with the baby, they'll get a lot of those, enough to be confused.

    It looks very DIY, not as flushed as I thought it would be. It's very adorable though, like how the thermometer spins around with the manual handle.

    Personally, the fact that it need to be man-handled at the end of the roast I know it's not for me. I've touched enough espresso machines. With that, it's just 2nd degree burn waiting to happen. And as an apartment dweller, I'll never be able to handle that smoke.

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    The Kaldi looks like a concept with some potential but still some way off from what I saw on the video. Too much variation in bean colour and hot beans popping out the front.

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    Of course I don't have one. Everyone here can only go off the cultured videos, and reviews. The videos were done with the intention of promoting the roaster in question. Down to the show of wearing gloves, and gas stove a very similar silver to the roaster.

    The manual version seems to be a little more effort, to the point of needing four hands. Indeed there is a point in the video where there are two people attending to the machine at once.
    That and the quality of the finish has me a little curious as to the quality. It appears light, and I fear that the outside will discolour and rust easily.

    Someone buy it and test... So it can be appraised objectively!

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    Kaldi Roaster Opinions?

    Has anybody used one of these? Kaldi coffee home roaster - YouTube

    Neither manual or auto units come with the Burner which I just can't wrap my brain around. The Hopper and Probe Rod come with an extra charge as well.($55 & $25usd)

    Per Ebay pricing for 12v auto/Gas unit is $425.76USD with free ship. Made is South Korea.




    Rated voltage: DC 12V. 6W
    DC power supply: input-AC220V, output-DC 12V 1000Ma
    r.p.m: 60/50:1 reducer
    Material: stainless steel
    Capacity: 200g, Max.: 250g
    Thermometer: 250C seal type
    Stirring drum size: (diameter)120mm x 115mm, thickness: 2mm
    Product size: 160(W)x200(D)x300mm(H),hopper excluded
    Weight:: 4.1kg, hopper excluded
    You can select one between fired type and pan type
    Made in Korea
    Chaff collector and thermometer are included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr._V View Post
    The Kaldi looks like a concept with some potential but still some way off from what I saw on the video. Too much variation in bean colour and hot beans popping out the front.

    I thought that was chaff being ejected? If not, is there difficulty in sorting Bean from chaff, post roast?


    I'm encouraged by anything I can completely disassemble and reassemble in good order. The construction is quality stainless with very little electronics to fail. My only concern would be replacement parts and getting those in in a timely manner.

    I'm leaning on getting one of these but I haven't completely ruled out the Behmor yet.

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    Hi all,
    did anyone end up getting one of these Kaldi units?
    I was going to take a punt and just get one but it would be great to hear from someone who actually has one.
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