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    Behmor roast spectrum

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    Hi Guys,

    I am wanting to upgrade to a roaster after my popper died. I am angling more towards the Behmor because of the price, but after doing lots of reading, a recurring theme seems to be that it works best for lighter roasts. I prefer darker - I think around Vienna (still getting used to colour/roast scales). Can the Behmor handle most of the roast types that you want it to do?

    The other thing I like about the Gene Café is that you can see the beans - I'm a bit of a visual person, so I would find that beneficial. Having said that there doesn't seem to be a lot of love for the Gene Café compared to the Behmor (certainly not as many retailers selling it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgseye View Post
    Hi Guys,

    I am wanting to upgrade to a roaster after my popper died. I am angling more towards the Behmor because of the price, but after doing lots of reading, a recurring theme seems to be that it works best for lighter roasts. I prefer darker - I think around Vienna (still getting used to colour/roast scales). Can the Behmor handle most of the roast types that you want it to do?

    The other thing I like about the Gene Café is that you can see the beans - I'm a bit of a visual person, so I would find that beneficial. Having said that there doesn't seem to be a lot of love for the Gene Café compared to the Behmor (certainly not as many retailers selling it).

    Thanks,

    Paul
    Have you thought about a Coretto Paul, easy to set up, low cost, very controllable and can roast over 700 grams at a time.

    Have a look through this thread.

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/roasters/2...ginning-4.html

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    I used a corretto for years and recently started using the behmor. Must say the operation is so much "cleaner" than the corretto, very neat and effective little device.

    No issues burning the beans in the behmor if you want a dark roast!

    The beans can be seen through the window but compared to what I was used to visually on the corretto, I found the colour of the internal light made the beans appear lighter than what they actually are. So I turned off the light and used an LED torch through the window. And I now measure bean temp via the roast monitor which makes it easy.

    The other good thing with the behmor is the "auto" profiles if you are feeling lazy.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by artman View Post
    I used a corretto for years and recently started using the behmor. Must say the operation is so much "cleaner" than the corretto, very neat and effective little device.

    No issues burning the beans in the behmor if you want a dark roast!

    The beans can be seen through the window but compared to what I was used to visually on the corretto, I found the colour of the internal light made the beans appear lighter than what they actually are. So I turned off the light and used an LED torch through the window. And I now measure bean temp via the roast monitor which makes it easy.

    The other good thing with the behmor is the "auto" profiles if you are feeling lazy.

    Cheers
    I agree the coretto is best used in a shed, they are smokey and generate quite a bit of chaff, both can be controlled but not eliminated.

    My Coretto will comfortably roast 725 grams of green beans, a weeks supply for me.

    My temp measurment is via a DMM with a probe in the bean mass.

    I have a work light directed onto the bean mass so visual monitoring is not an issue.

    Re burning beans I've been roasting on a Coretto weekly for almost 10 years, have yet to burn a roast.

    Certainly ticks all the boxes for me, but, I guess not for everyone.

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    I was meaning you can do a dark roast in behmor. I roast in the garage and as above wouldn't do corretto indoors. Behmor you could do it under range hood or similar.

    I used to do 625g in corretto (quarter of greens bag) which gave about 500g roasted.

    Have done 500g in behmor ok, although you need to watch the max wall temp. Will try larger batch out of curiosity although generally not recommended to do large roasts.

    The corretto is more messy etc but nothing a quick vacuum won't fix.

    I miss the slightly larger capacity of the corretto and the DIY McGyver aspect of it but am also loving the taste and neatness from the behmor.

    Cheers

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    Thanks a lot for your thoughts guys. I'll have a look at the Coretto info as well.

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    Good luck whichever way you decide to go.

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    I'm interested in the Behmor Roaster , And I 'd like to know about the manual over-ride feature , how many extra minutes does it add , if my beans weren't " done " by the time set? And what would the maximum weight/amount of beans can it roast ?

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    you can keep resetting the time with the C button, I havent hit a limit (there might be one but doubt you will reach it).

    I have done several 500g roasts without any issues on manual. Havent tried a larger roast yet.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by artman View Post
    you can keep resetting the time with the C button, I havent hit a limit (there might be one but doubt you will reach it).

    I have done several 500g roasts without any issues on manual. Havent tried a larger roast yet.

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    There is a limit, it's the max time for each batch size. From memory the longest roast time you can do is about 22min.

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    I ended up going with the Behmor and I think it's great. I've done about 10 roasts so far - the majority using 200g, with the last 3 at 300g. I default use it with the 400g setting to maximise the time and with 300g it takes about 12 minutes to get to second crack (with some of Bean Bays Costa Rican beans). I thought the maximum time (which for 400g is 24 minutes?) was literally the maximum - i.e. the machine won't stay on for longer that, but I haven't tried so I could be wrong.

    How long do the 500g roasts take you artman?
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    You can continue to use "C" the rosetta stone function to add time, seems unlimited to the amount of times this can be used. Although you will have to watch max wall temp.



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    Quote Originally Posted by spags View Post
    You can continue to use "C" the rosetta stone function to add time, seems unlimited to the amount of times this can be used. Although you will have to watch max wall temp.



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    No it's not unlimited, it will stop letting you use it once you have reached the max allowable time for that weight and profile.

    And welcome.

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    I think that's right thinking back but I'm pretty sure that I have extended roasts at least twice with the C button. Either way unless something is not right you shouldn't be reaching the max roast time.

    I will probably be doing a roast tonight and will post up the profiles for the 500g batches.

    Cheers

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    Behmor Coffee Roaster
    Just did a 550g batch. Preheated roaster on 100% for a few mins (B temp 93), normally I do 500g batches without preheating.

    Here is the roast profile, temp is bean mass temp.

    550g.JPG

    This is on manual mode. The red line represents the power input (started at 100%, I was tardy adjusting the slider).
    First crack ~14.5 min, cooled just at start of second crack at ~18.5 min.

    You need to watch the B temp as the roaster will shut down if it gets too hot (165 from memory? - there is another thread here where I posted the exact temp) and reduce heat if it is approaching this temp.

    Just had a look through my previous roasts and the profile and first crack times are almost identical for 400g to 500g batches.

    The temps have been cool by Perth standards (mid teens) and roasting in the garagage, so will probably speed up and require less heat input as the ambient temps get into the 30s.

    Cheers



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